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  1. 1. What is your overall favorite Star Trek series?

    • Star Trek: Enterprise
      16
    • Star Trek: The Original Series
      50
    • Star Trek: The Animated Series
      0
    • Star Trek: The Next Generation
      55
    • Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
      48
    • Star Trek: Voyager
      33
  2. 2. What is your overall favorite Star Trek movie?

    • Star Trek - I: The Motion Picture
      10
    • Star Trek - II: The Wrath of Khan
      41
    • Star Trek - III: The Search for Spock
      6
    • Star Trek - IV: The Voyage Home
      22
    • Star Trek - V: The Final Frontier
      4
    • Star Trek - VI: The Undiscovered Country
      28
    • Star Trek - VII: Generations
      11
    • Star Trek - VIII: First Contact
      64
    • Star Trek - IX: Insurrection
      6
    • Star Trek - X: Nemesis
      10


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I like it, but it is a tad soulless. The effects are what carry it, the story had been done before in an episode, it just takes so long to get where it's going. I watched the DVD extras, and the production seemed to be on the hoof a lot of the time, and frankly it shows, especially in the script.

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Recently bought the blu ray to ST-TMP and while I miss many of the subtle improvements (and livelier foley FX) of the 2001 director's cut, ST-TMP has never looked lovelier. The image is so rich; with perfect black levels and gorgeous, crisp visuals throughout. Despite the overall superiority of the DC, I still find some things about the 1979 version very cool (and on blu ray, it just knocks my socks off!).

star-trek-tmp-2.jpg?w=627 << This is just an idea of how sharp & clean the blu ray image looks...

I know ST-TMP isn't everyone's cup of raktajino, but I simply LOVE this movie; enough to own (and watch) two versions of it (and the 2-disc 1999 release of the soundtrack too!).

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Recently bought the blu ray to ST-TMP and while I miss many of the subtle improvements (and livelier foley FX) of the 2001 director's cut, ST-TMP has never looked lovelier. The image is so rich; with perfect black levels and gorgeous, crisp visuals throughout. Despite the overall superiority of the DC, I still find some things about the 1979 version very cool (and on blu ray, it just knocks my socks off!).

star-trek-tmp-2.jpg?w=627 << This is just an idea of how sharp & clean the blu ray image looks...

I know ST-TMP isn't everyone's cup of raktajino, but I simply LOVE this movie; enough to own (and watch) two versions of it (and the 2-disc 1999 release of the soundtrack too!).

And yet even in the Director's Cut, nobody at Paramount bothered to fix Spock and McCoy's uniform band colors switching. :P

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Recently bought the blu ray to ST-TMP and while I miss many of the subtle improvements (and livelier foley FX) of the 2001 director's cut, ST-TMP has never looked lovelier. The image is so rich; with perfect black levels and gorgeous, crisp visuals throughout. Despite the overall superiority of the DC, I still find some things about the 1979 version very cool (and on blu ray, it just knocks my socks off!).

star-trek-tmp-2.jpg?w=627 << This is just an idea of how sharp & clean the blu ray image looks...

I know ST-TMP isn't everyone's cup of raktajino, but I simply LOVE this movie; enough to own (and watch) two versions of it (and the 2-disc 1999 release of the soundtrack too!).

And yet even in the Director's Cut, nobody at Paramount bothered to fix Spock and McCoy's uniform band colors switching. :P

Come now, the flaws of a movie can be part of its charm. :P

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Hmm ....all those minutes of Enterprise in HD .... now that is just pornographic :drool: I'll have to save up some pennies and indulge myself :)

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Hmm ....all those minutes of Enterprise in HD .... now that is just pornographic :drool: I'll have to save up some pennies and indulge myself :)

Ship porn! :thumbup:

USS_Enterprise_Drydock_movie.jpg

.... it's totally safe, and you don't have to worry about your spouse/kids walking in on you. ;)

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Hmm ....all those minutes of Enterprise in HD .... now that is just pornographic :drool: I'll have to save up some pennies and indulge myself :)

Ship porn! :thumbup:

USS_Enterprise_Drydock_movie.jpg

.... it's totally safe, and you don't have to worry about your spouse/kids walking in on you. ;)

Surely a thing of beauty.

On another note: Remember kids, always practice safe SFX :P

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Hmm ....all those minutes of Enterprise in HD .... now that is just pornographic :drool: I'll have to save up some pennies and indulge myself :)

Ship porn! :thumbup:

USS_Enterprise_Drydock_movie.jpg

.... it's totally safe, and you don't have to worry about your spouse/kids walking in on you. ;)

Surely a thing of beauty.

On another note: Remember kids, always practice safe SFX :P

So, watching Star Trek V is out then, I take it? :laugh:

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Hmm ....all those minutes of Enterprise in HD .... now that is just pornographic :drool: I'll have to save up some pennies and indulge myself :)

Ship porn! :thumbup:

USS_Enterprise_Drydock_movie.jpg

.... it's totally safe, and you don't have to worry about your spouse/kids walking in on you. ;)

Surely a thing of beauty.

On another note: Remember kids, always practice safe SFX :P

So, watching Star Trek V is out then, I take it? :laugh:

:giggle: Smoking Rockmen, vengeful, lightning shooting blobs ...there's no telling what you'd catch from them :giggle:

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Hmm ....all those minutes of Enterprise in HD .... now that is just pornographic :drool: I'll have to save up some pennies and indulge myself :)

Ship porn! :thumbup:

USS_Enterprise_Drydock_movie.jpg

.... it's totally safe, and you don't have to worry about your spouse/kids walking in on you. ;)

Surely a thing of beauty.

On another note: Remember kids, always practice safe SFX :P

So, watching Star Trek V is out then, I take it? :laugh:

:giggle: Smoking Rockmen, vengeful, lightning shooting blobs ...there's no telling what you'd catch from them :giggle:

tumblr_mk171u5SdL1rj01abo1_500.gif

You might need your shots first before you watch.... :P

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Hmm ....all those minutes of Enterprise in HD .... now that is just pornographic :drool: I'll have to save up some pennies and indulge myself :)

Ship porn! :thumbup:

USS_Enterprise_Drydock_movie.jpg

.... it's totally safe, and you don't have to worry about your spouse/kids walking in on you. ;)

Surely a thing of beauty.

On another note: Remember kids, always practice safe SFX :P

So, watching Star Trek V is out then, I take it? :laugh:

:giggle: Smoking Rockmen, vengeful, lightning shooting blobs ...there's no telling what you'd catch from them :giggle:

tumblr_mk171u5SdL1rj01abo1_500.gif

You might need your shots first before you watch.... :P

Vodka, whiskey or rum? :angel_not:

(thinks we've utterly derailed things here )

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Hmm ....all those minutes of Enterprise in HD .... now that is just pornographic :drool: I'll have to save up some pennies and indulge myself :)

Ship porn! :thumbup:

USS_Enterprise_Drydock_movie.jpg

.... it's totally safe, and you don't have to worry about your spouse/kids walking in on you. ;)

Surely a thing of beauty.

On another note: Remember kids, always practice safe SFX :P

So, watching Star Trek V is out then, I take it? :laugh:

:giggle: Smoking Rockmen, vengeful, lightning shooting blobs ...there's no telling what you'd catch from them :giggle:

tumblr_mk171u5SdL1rj01abo1_500.gif

You might need your shots first before you watch.... :P

Vodka, whiskey or rum? :angel_not:

(thinks we've utterly derailed things here )

To watch STV? ALL, please....

(yes, we have....)

Star Trek TMP is an underrated masterpiece! :thumbup:

(there... pretty as a picture :P ).

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I gave it a 7. A decent, entertaining movie, and I found myself wondering how the heck they made the cloud effects before CGI! The FX are still impressive today. The movie was a bit slow, particularly at the start, but I liked the characterization, the interplay between crew members and the plot. But then, I only recently got back into Trek in a big way, and may be less jaded than some who've seen every episode and movie multiple times.

Just watched this one again, five years later. It was actually better than I remembered from five years ago, and it's beautiful in blu-ray. The FX are still amazing.

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I gave it a 7. A decent, entertaining movie, and I found myself wondering how the heck they made the cloud effects before CGI! The FX are still impressive today. The movie was a bit slow, particularly at the start, but I liked the characterization, the interplay between crew members and the plot. But then, I only recently got back into Trek in a big way, and may be less jaded than some who've seen every episode and movie multiple times.

Just watched this one again, five years later. It was actually better than I remembered from five years ago, and it's beautiful in blu-ray. The FX are still amazing.

The trip through the cloud was done using a motion controlled version of the same process that did the 'light trip' sequence in "2001" (Douglas Trumbull did both); it's a process called slit-scan. http://en.wikipedia....can_photography How they did it so seamlessly and beautifully I have no idea; and to think they had no CGI in those days. It was all done on stage with optical augmentation and multiple printers. Unreal....

I still marvel at the V'ger cloud sequence myself. And that music is the closest thing to capturing the music of a dream. I really wish TMP received more fan love; we might have more movies like it, rather than endless sensory overloads featuring giant CGI robots always beating the crap out of each other.

I will never forget how blown away I was when I first saw this in the theatre when I was 12. I could almost feel the chill of deep space at times; the awe and grandeur was palpable... few films do that for me nowadays ("Gravity" is a notable exception).

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I gave it a 7. A decent, entertaining movie, and I found myself wondering how the heck they made the cloud effects before CGI! The FX are still impressive today. The movie was a bit slow, particularly at the start, but I liked the characterization, the interplay between crew members and the plot. But then, I only recently got back into Trek in a big way, and may be less jaded than some who've seen every episode and movie multiple times.

Just watched this one again, five years later. It was actually better than I remembered from five years ago, and it's beautiful in blu-ray. The FX are still amazing.

The trip through the cloud was done using a motion controlled version of the same process that did the 'light trip' sequence in "2001" (Douglas Trumbull did both); it's a process called slit-scan. http://en.wikipedia....can_photography How they did it so seamlessly and beautifully I have no idea; and to think they had no CGI in those days. It was all done on stage with optical augmentation and multiple printers. Unreal....

I still marvel at the V'ger cloud sequence myself. And that music is the closest thing to capturing the music of a dream. I really wish TMP received more fan love; we might have more movies like it, rather than endless sensory overloads featuring giant CGI robots always beating the crap out of each other.

I will never forget how blown away I was when I first saw this in the theatre when I was 12. I could almost feel the chill of deep space at times; the awe and grandeur was palpable... few films do that for me nowadays ("Gravity" is a notable exception).

That music, with that trip through the clouds on the way to the centre is so hypnotising and haunting at the same time. It's beautiful.

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I gave it a 7. A decent, entertaining movie, and I found myself wondering how the heck they made the cloud effects before CGI! The FX are still impressive today. The movie was a bit slow, particularly at the start, but I liked the characterization, the interplay between crew members and the plot. But then, I only recently got back into Trek in a big way, and may be less jaded than some who've seen every episode and movie multiple times.

Just watched this one again, five years later. It was actually better than I remembered from five years ago, and it's beautiful in blu-ray. The FX are still amazing.

The trip through the cloud was done using a motion controlled version of the same process that did the 'light trip' sequence in "2001" (Douglas Trumbull did both); it's a process called slit-scan. http://en.wikipedia....can_photography How they did it so seamlessly and beautifully I have no idea; and to think they had no CGI in those days. It was all done on stage with optical augmentation and multiple printers. Unreal....

I still marvel at the V'ger cloud sequence myself. And that music is the closest thing to capturing the music of a dream. I really wish TMP received more fan love; we might have more movies like it, rather than endless sensory overloads featuring giant CGI robots always beating the crap out of each other.

I will never forget how blown away I was when I first saw this in the theatre when I was 12. I could almost feel the chill of deep space at times; the awe and grandeur was palpable... few films do that for me nowadays ("Gravity" is a notable exception).

That music, with that trip through the clouds on the way to the centre is so hypnotising and haunting at the same time. It's beautiful.

It's dreamlike. I remember playing the LP many a time while doing homework (many, many moons ago) and just losing myself in "The Cloud" track....

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I had a sudden, mad urge to watch this a few weeks ago... and unlike my sudden, mad urge to watch "The Final Frontier" a few days earlier, I didn't regret it! I think this film truly stands the test of time. It's one of Star Trek's few real science-fiction stories, rather than yet another evil madman who wants to destroy America (Enterprise never got a film, thankfully). I confess I got a little bored watching the approach to the spacedock but I'd watched that only a few days before while ripping the DVD, so there's nothing wrong with it in itself.

I'd say a seven or eight, given that every character who isn't Kirk, Spock or McCoy is barely given any screen time. Oh, and knock off a point for killing Ilia too, 'cause she was kind of cool.

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You folks are putting me in the mood to whip out the blu ray again (or the director's cut DVD)... and I just watched both a few months ago. :P

For me both versions of TMP are apples and oranges; can't pick a clear favorite. The DC was done with such care (and personally overseen by the late Robert Wise); even the CGI FX fixes are seamless (unlike the SW special editions), but the original still has a raw power to it as well (and it looks so damn gorgeous in HD). Glad I don't have to decide between buying just one or the other... :thumbup:

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I for one wish the Director's Edition was out on blu-ray - it is as you say a seamless remastering, matching up much more closely with the storyboards and concept sketches than the theatrical version (which was only a very rough cut as it was so far behind schedule). But I suppose the new scenes were only rendered in SD and wouldn't scale up properly. :(

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I for one wish the Director's Edition was out on blu-ray - it is as you say a seamless remastering, matching up much more closely with the storyboards and concept sketches than the theatrical version (which was only a very rough cut as it was so far behind schedule). But I suppose the new scenes were only rendered in SD and wouldn't scale up properly. :(

True.

The new FX were only scaled at 480p resolution (DVD standard in 2001, when it was released).

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They went so far as to add film grain to the CGI effects to blend in with the rest of the picture. If anything, my only gripe with the new effects is the reveal of V'ger approaching Earth.

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Boo :( thinking about it I've only seen the DC, maybe I should take some time for the original version.

It's an interesting comparison. The DC seems a bit 'tighter' in spots; tiny bits trimmed, while other scenes are added. Some of the new VFX tend to clear up or fix minor flaws in the original cut such as the former black windows out of the recreation deck behind Ilia; in the DC we see the bowels of V'ger, as we should. My other favorite fix is the nacelle pylon visible behind the window as Kirk Spock and McCoy are talking soon after Spock's arrival. They're little fixes, but as noted earlier in the thread, they were storyboarded for the original so they are the director's intent (and not random crap thrown in, ala the Star Wars special editions). Vulcan looks more familiar too; with the new orange sky. In the original, the sky was black and there several giant planets visible in the skyline (odd for a planet with 'no moon' as Spock noted in "Man Trap"). I also liked seeing (just barely) a TOS-era shuttlecraft lifting off from the Starfleet HQ tram station (you really have to look for it). These fixes and edits made sense, and they are not obtrusive or distracting; they feel organic.

That being said? I also like the slightly more raw feeling of the original as well (the obnoxious klaxon noises in the original are more alarming than the softer ones we hear in the DC). Again, it's an apples and oranges thing. The film is largely the same in both.

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If there was a flawless version, it'd have the original sound mix that included the old klaxon, and yet retain the new visuals. :P

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