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32 minutes ago, The Founder said:

Longer Trailer

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I want to like it but ... I'm still pissed about TLJ.

I just don't know what to think about a movie idea so good, it had to be 90% scrapped and reshot. 

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2 hours ago, The Founder said:

Longer Trailer

I'm not sure how I feel about this. I want to like it but ... I'm still pissed about TLJ.

I’m tentatively and cautiously hopeful, but not much more than that.   We’ll see is the attitude I’m trying to adopt, but yes, TLJ left a very bitter aftertaste with me as well.

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2 hours ago, Robin Bland said:

I thought it looked cool. I may be in love with Emilia Clarke though, which might make my judgment a little fuzzy.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/everything-we-can-glean-from-the-first-solo-a-star-war-1822730254

 

I know it’s... 

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but I still wish they got Anthony Ingruber.  The kid just looked so right in the role as young Ford in “Age of Adeline”; and he’s about Ford’s height too.

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Also this...

 

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6 hours ago, Sehlat Vie said:

I know it’s... 

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but I still wish they got Anthony Ingruber.  The kid just looked so right in the role as young Ford in “Age of Adeline”; and he’s about Ford’s height too.

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Also this...

 

Yeah, I remember us discussing that when this movie was first announced and I was certainly convinced by the footage you posted then, too. IIRC, there were feelings across the Internet that Ingruber is not a great actor (I’ve never seen him anything; I haven’t seen The Age of Adeline), but judging from these TV spots, LF are hedging their bets with Alden Ehrenreich too. There’s a sort of Solo-shaped hole in this trailer. There’s a couple of shots where he looks waaaay short, too. That shouldn’t be a characteristic worth noting, but when you’re used to Harrison’s Ford’s physical presence, maybe it was something worth addressing? What’s he going to look like standing next to Chewie? I guess in that shot where Chewie puts his arm around him, they had Aldenreich standing on boxes or something. 

In the end, I only care whether I can buy the character in the context of the movie, whether I can accept, while watching this, that I’m watching a young Han Solo. I’m excited that we get a Lawrence Kasdan script, at least. And yeah, it does look cool. And (sorry), Emilia Clarke. 

After the divisive TLJ, I’m hoping we get something more along the lines of Rogue One, that feels like Star Wars without alienating a huge segment of the audience. 

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New Character Names From SOLO: A STAR WARS STORY Revealed By Lucasfilm

 
Following the release of that action-packed trailer, Lucasfilm have revealed the names of some of the movie's characters, specifically those played by Thandie Newton and Phoebe Waller-Bridge. Check it out!
 
 
 
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4 hours ago, Robin Bland said:

In the end, I only care whether I can buy the character in the context of the movie, whether I can accept, while watching this, that I’m watching a young Han Solo. I’m excited that we get a Lawrence Kasdan script, at least. And yeah, it does look cool. And (sorry), Emilia Clarke. 

After the divisive TLJ, I’m hoping we get something more along the lines of Rogue One, that feels like Star Wars without alienating a huge segment of the audience.

^
This.

Last night I threw out a quickie post on my blog about the teaser: https://musingsofamiddleagedgeek.blog/2018/02/05/han-solo-a-star-wars-story-official-teaser-trailer/

Totally forgot about the Kasdan script, too (!).  That’s certainly a major plus as well...

 

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11 hours ago, Sehlat Vie said:

^
This.

Last night I threw out a quickie post on my blog about the teaser: https://musingsofamiddleagedgeek.blog/2018/02/05/han-solo-a-star-wars-story-official-teaser-trailer/

Totally forgot about the Kasdan script, too (!).  That’s certainly a major plus as well...

 

Nice article, Sehlat. I’m also psyched to see Donald Glover’s Lando. Have you seen him in a show called Atlanta? Very, very funny and scathing satirical series. More Dramedy than comedy.

I hadn’t analyzed the trailer as fully as you, and you’ve made me a little scared about a repeat of Canto Bight...! The blight of TLJ... 

I do feel I have to give Ehrenreich a chance. Gotta watch the movie and his performance in it, not make a decision from the trailer. It does feel as if they’ve deliberately edited this spot to feature him as little as possible. 

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45 minutes ago, Robin Bland said:

Have you seen him in a show called Atlanta? Very, very funny and scathing satirical series. More Dramedy than comedy.

No, but his Netflix special was terrific.    Makes me interested to see his dramatic chops now.

46 minutes ago, Robin Bland said:

I hadn’t analyzed the trailer as fully as you, and you’ve made me a little scared about a repeat of Canto Bight...! The blight of TLJ... 

I’m just hoping that this casino planet (or whatever the hell that was) serves a more important plot point than the padding and far-future setup than the waste of time that was the Canto Bight sequence in TLJ.  

48 minutes ago, Robin Bland said:

I do feel I have to give Ehrenreich a chance. Gotta watch the movie and his performance in it, not make a decision from the trailer. It does feel as if they’ve deliberately edited this spot to feature him as little as possible. 

I hate to keep repeating this, but his lack of height is very... noticeable.  

I’m a stature-challenged person myself (5’8” on a good day), so I’m not trying to height-shame here, but then again, I’m not playing Han Solo either.  

And his voice...are we seeing Solo before adolescence?   He definitely lacks Ford’s rich, slightly midwestern timbre.  

If it were a reboot, or even a soft-reboot (ala Star Trek 2009) I wouldn’t be so nitpicking with the casting, but this is supposed to be the same kind/class of film as Rogue One; and that movie went to considerable trouble to match as seamlessly with SW77 as it could.

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8 hours ago, Sehlat Vie said:

No, but his Netflix special was terrific.    Makes me interested to see his dramatic chops now.

I’m just hoping that this casino planet (or whatever the hell that was) serves a more important plot point than the padding and far-future setup than the waste of time that was the Canto Bight sequence in TLJ.  

TLJ absolutely needed restructuring and a serious rethink in its attitude to Luke. All that Johnson says he wanted to achieve he could’ve done without making it such a divisive film. I guess we covered that on the TLJ thread... 

8 hours ago, Sehlat Vie said:

I hate to keep repeating this, but his lack of height is very... noticeable.  

I’m a stature-challenged person myself (5’8” on a good day), so I’m not trying to height-shame here, but then again, I’m not playing Han Solo either.  

And his voice...are we seeing Solo before adolescence?   He definitely lacks Ford’s rich, slightly midwestern timbre.  

If it were a reboot, or even a soft-reboot (ala Star Trek 2009) I wouldn’t be so nitpicking with the casting, but this is supposed to be the same kind/class of film as Rogue One; and that movie went to considerable trouble to match as seamlessly with SW77 as it could.

Yeah, it’s a little worrying. I mean, those are huge shoes to fill - you’re not only stepping into a role that’s one of the most iconic in all western cinema, you’re taking over from one of the most iconic and best-loved film stars of all time. There’s not much of a physical resemblance, nor a tonal one, so LF and company must’ve seen something else in Ehrenreich that worked, that simply isn’t spotlit by this trailer. Performance chops; screen presence, whatever. 

Right? [He says, trying to convince himself, more than anybody...] 

But I do keep thinking of that Kasdan script. That alone will get a ticket bought by me. 

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9 hours ago, Robin Bland said:

Yeah, it’s a little worrying. I mean, those are huge shoes to fill - you’re not only stepping into a role that’s one of the most iconic in all western cinema, you’re taking over from one of the most iconic and best-loved film stars of all time. There’s not much of a physical resemblance, nor a tonal one, so LF and company must’ve seen something else in Ehrenreich that worked, that simply isn’t spotlit by this trailer. Performance chops; screen presence, whatever. 

Right? [He says, trying to convince himself, more than anybody...] 

^
[Doing the same] :laugh:

9 hours ago, Robin Bland said:

But I do keep thinking of that Kasdan script. That alone will get a ticket bought by me. 

I could almost watch the whole movie done with sock puppets if the Larry Kasdan script delivers.

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3 hours ago, prometheus59650 said:

Ford as consultant is a notch in its favor.

Which is exactly why they just made that up.

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3 hours ago, prometheus59650 said:

Ford as consultant is a notch in its favor.

I wonder if he coached Ehrenreich on how to be taller...:giggle:

Okay, that was mean.  I’m done.  :P

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33 minutes ago, kenman said:

Which is exactly why they just made that up.

Wouldn't shock me if they had. He's never seemed all that interested in helping SW out before.

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4 hours ago, prometheus59650 said:

Wouldn't shock me if they had. He's never seemed all that interested in helping SW out before.

I bet the most that happened is maybe they arranged for the new kid to meet him, and he was just like "yea have fun" and then they didn't see a huge reaction one way or the other on the trailer and they thought "lets say Ford's meeting with the kid was "consulting" and send Ford a check to keep the story straight and we can get fans on our side..."

I mean really...this is not the least likely of events in terms of PR for the mega-corp that is Disney. 

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11 hours ago, prometheus59650 said:

Wouldn't shock me if they had. He's never seemed all that interested in helping SW out before.

And ‘consultant’ is usually just code-speak for keeping a disgruntled person outside of the production happy; much as Roddenberry was a ‘consultant’ on TWOK.

In Ford’s case, I agree that it was probably more for PR than anything else.   He never struck me as being particularly invested in the Solo character. 

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30 minutes ago, Sehlat Vie said:

And ‘consultant’ is usually just code-speak for keeping a disgruntled person outside of the production happy; much as Roddenberry was a ‘consultant’ on TWOK.

In Ford’s case, I agree that it was probably more for PR than anything else.   He never struck me as being particularly invested in the Solo character. 

Indeed.

 

I imagine the only things that really got him to do TFA at all were maybe the nostalgia of working with Fisher again for a few days and then finally killing Han like he's wanted to do for decades anyway.

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2 hours ago, prometheus59650 said:

Indeed.

 

I imagine the only things that really got him to do TFA at all were maybe the nostalgia of working with Fisher again for a few days and then finally killing Han like he's wanted to do for decades anyway.

And that big ol' bag of money.  I wonder if it was the same amount they plopped in Nimoy's lap to have him skype in for his bored scene in Into Darkness after he said he wanted ot be done forever. 

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