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STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI - The First Reactions Are In And It Sounds Like Luke Skywalker Steals The Show
 
The world premiere of Star Wars: The Last Jedi just ended a little under an hour ago, meaning a ton of reactions have started to pour in and it sounds like Disney has another winner on their hands! I really wish CBS cared for STAR TREK well being like Disney respects the STAR WARS franchise and its fans. Just my two cents of course.
 

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Oooooh! Me too. I’m excited.

I haven’t read this Slashfilm link - I’m deliberately avoiding all pre-publicity at this point in case of even mild spoilers. I haven’t even watched the last few trailers...

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi-early-buzz-a-surprising-funny-and-jaw-dropping-sequel/

 

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23 minutes ago, Robin Bland said:

Oooooh! Me too. I’m excited.

I haven’t read this Slashfilm link - I’m deliberately avoiding all pre-publicity at this point in case of even mild spoilers. I haven’t even watched the last few trailers...

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-last-jedi-early-buzz-a-surprising-funny-and-jaw-dropping-sequel/

 

Me neither.

For once, I actually want to be surprised (unlike my 13 year old self, who read Don Glut’s novelization of “Empire...” before seeing the movie in the spring of 1980; I was the only member of my family who wasn’t surprised by the big reveal  :giggle:).

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Will know Friday at about 4pm, but I am super excited that the early tweet reviews are so profoundly positive.

2 hours ago, Sehlat Vie said:

Me neither.

For once, I actually want to be surprised (unlike my 13 year old self, who read Don Glut’s novelization of “Empire...” before seeing the movie in the spring of 1980; I was the only member of my family who wasn’t surprised by the big reveal  :giggle:).

Do you still feel shame?

 

You should still feel shame. ;)

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Just to be clear is this a SPOILER free discussion?

 

I haven't 'studied' the trailers but I'm grateful that they don't seem to reveal much about plot and the action scenes are quite generic. I'm happy with that. 

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16 minutes ago, Nombrecomun said:

Just to be clear is this a SPOILER free discussion?

 

I haven't 'studied' the trailers but I'm grateful that they don't seem to reveal much about plot and the action scenes are quite generic. I'm happy with that. 

I personally would tag anything that might be, just in case. Some people are even trying to avoid commercials.

I'm not, but some people get touchy about that sort of thing.

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13 minutes ago, prometheus59650 said:

I personally would tag anything that might be, just in case. Some people are even trying to avoid commercials.

I'm not, but some people get touchy about that sort of thing.

I'm one of those peeps! 

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7 hours ago, Nombrecomun said:

Just to be clear is this a SPOILER free discussion?

 

I haven't 'studied' the trailers but I'm grateful that they don't seem to reveal much about plot and the action scenes are quite generic. I'm happy with that. 

I hadn’t intended on it being so, as it’s for discussion of the movie itself after we’ve all seen it separate fro the General SW thread. Soz, should’ve put that in the title heading, But no prob. We can tag for spoilers ‘til everyone has. :) 

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7 hours ago, prometheus59650 said:

Will know Friday at about 4pm, but I am super excited that the early tweet reviews are so profoundly positive.

Do you still feel shame?

 

You should still feel shame. ;)

Shame is the sauce in which I stew...:giggle:

7 hours ago, Nombrecomun said:

Just to be clear is this a SPOILER free discussion?

 

I haven't 'studied' the trailers but I'm grateful that they don't seem to reveal much about plot and the action scenes are quite generic. I'm happy with that. 

I agree with the general consensus;.

All posters should indicate/tag SPOILERS in their posts, and readers should use their own discretion when choosing to read posts with spoiler warnings.   

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2 hours ago, prometheus59650 said:

Yup. There are some calling it better than "Empire."

I'm skeptical of that, but if it can even come close, it'll be a resounding success.

Having just watched "Empire" again this past Sunday?  I highly doubt that.  I've read early reviews on CNN and from Access Hollywood's Scott Mantz on Twitter; both said it lags in the middle quite a bit.  Again, haven't seen it myself, and I read a similar critique of "Blade Runner 2049" (which I strongly disagreed with), so I'm not prejudging TLJ till I see it.

But it is over 2 and a half hours...which means no sodas or drinks for me in the theatre (not with my child-size bladder).

But "Empire" is one of the greatest movies (let alone sequels) ever made; early comparisons to it are probably post-movie 'glow' (which I myself have occasionally suffered).

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10 minutes ago, Sehlat Vie said:

 Again, haven't seen it myself, and I read a similar critique of "Blade Runner 2049" (which I strongly disagreed with), so I'm not prejudging TLJ till I see it.

This.

I didn't find 2049 bloated at all. I honestly don't expect the same efficient use of every minute from a Star Wars movie, not when Disney's got warehouses of stuffed Porgs to move. :)

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28 minutes ago, prometheus59650 said:

This.

I didn't find 2049 bloated at all. I honestly don't expect the same efficient use of every minute from a Star Wars movie, not when Disney's got warehouses of stuffed Porgs to move. :)

Yeah, the Porgs bother me a bit.

Haven’t seen the movie, but they feel like a 21st century marketable answer to Ewoks (and I hated the Ewoks in 1983, too :P).   They look like a cross between an Ewok and a Furbee (something I couldn’t stand in the late ‘90s).

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1 hour ago, Sehlat Vie said:

Yeah, the Porgs bother me a bit.

Haven’t seen the movie, but they feel like a 21st century marketable answer to Ewoks (and I hated the Ewoks in 1983, too :P).   They look like a cross between an Ewok and a Furbee (something I couldn’t stand in the late ‘90s).

My big problem with the Ewoks was just that the Empire couldn't smear them all over the forest floor and make rugs out of them.

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34 minutes ago, prometheus59650 said:

My big problem with the Ewoks was just that the Empire couldn't smear them all over the forest floor and make rugs out of them.

I thought they’d make great ‘70s style toilet lid covers...:giggle:

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I feel like TPTB take all the previous Star Wars movies, put them in a blender, and then see what spills out. This movie isn't beat by beat like TFA was to Star Wars but you recognize the same recycled elements from the other movies. Considering the length of the thing, very little really happens. My biggest disappointment is not knowing who Snoke was and where did Rey come from. Sure, Ben says something but is it believable? No. So in the end we come away with nothing considering these were really big questions left from the last movie. 

I also did not enjoy the language. Specifically "big ass door" and even "Godspeed" are really out of place words and phrases. 

It's really very lazy writing. They know they have a captive audience so to speak. 

I am curious as to how they will incorporate Leia in the next movie. I'm quite sure Luke will appear again as a Force Ghost just like Yoda did. 

A lot of hype imo. 

 

Ok. Some pluses after a couple of hours:

-Nice to see other women in central roles. Much needed in scifi. 

-Diversity as well. Still backgroundish in many circumstances(about to be blown up) but Rose Tico was nice to have. I would have much preferred that they swap out actresses for her sister in the bomber. Yowzer!!!

-Related to the previous, it was great to see Benicio Del Toro. I had no idea he was in this. 

-I liked the connection between Kylo and Rey. Those scenes were interesting. I wouldn't be surprised if she does turn out to be his sister or some other relation; Rey having been "Luked" on Jakku for safekeeping or to prevent her from becoming another Kylo. 

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I liked the movie and it's perfectly fair to call it the best film since Empire despite the flaws.

Mainly, yes, the middle is bloated and the Casino Royale section could be cut entirely. I think it essentially stopped the film to the point where it took some time to start it back up.

This is easily the best turn for Hamill that he's done with Luke or that Hamill could ask for.

Yoda's CGI was just awful. He looked better 10 years ago.

Phasma continues to have no point that I can see other than "We found a 6.3 woman to go in the shiny suit."

Rey and Kylo are great together and my perception is that he's lying to her about her parentage.

This movie does repeat beats from the previous films, but this time they're different enough to be called beats where in TFA, you could make the legit argument that TFA was ripping the OT.

Porgs were used just enough to be cute and not annoying.

 

Finally. I'm sorry, but if the tactic used against Snoke's fleet had been used earlier, a lot of grief might have been saved. Every lagging ship was capable of a hyper jump until they ran out of fuel. When they ran out of fuel, they were dead anyway. It was just a waste of time not to do it sooner.

Flawed, but still satisfying.

 

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STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI Has Been Embraced By Critics, But Fan Reactions Are Decidedly More Mixed
 
Rian Johnson's Star Wars: The Last Jedi was a massive hit with critics, but audiences have not embraced the long-awaited return to the galaxy far, far away in such a positive manner. Well, I liked it.
 

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