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Ridley Scott: Alien movies need to have fewer aliens

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2 hours ago, Robin Bland said:

Please, no more

Amen.

It stuns me that he thinks the Aliens were the problem in Covenant when it was the aliens and not that he basically had them all with hockey masks and machetes.

It was sooooooooooo cheesy.

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18 hours ago, Sehlat Vie said:

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Ha! Ridley needs to stop making the mvoies 'big ideas of creation' and then not delivering 'big ideas about creation', and deliver 'big ideas about our origins' instead, if he's going to do that.

If he just wants to make more haunted planet, haunted ship, or haunted base stories, fine, but don't pretend to have the 'our origins revealed' or 'who made us' engineer aliens stuff and not go there, but say they're all wiped out by one freaking robot with some bombs! What kind of an ending is that? Off camera no less, told to us by the robot!

If they were 'ancient aliens' which is silly to begin with, then woulldn't they be so advanced after millions of years, they would be a type 2 or 3, or higher people, and be like Q? David would have arrived, and they would have just melted his ship with their minds.

They didn't go with any of the stuff they allegedly promised, and cut out key scenes about that, and then just had the robot destroy the plot thread, lterally, and make his own creation. No, Ridley, you don't need more or less horror aliens.

Let someone else direct these stories. Someone who knows what they're doing. Blade Runner 2 guy might be a good choice.

"Prometheus" possibly should have just been another forbidden planet, haunted planet story, with no creation elements.

"Paradise" should have not had the engineers be there at all, because they just get offed, and it should hasve just been about crazy David finding and assimilating those aliens on the planet. They're just aliens. No creations, just aliens. If you're going to go there, go there. If not, don't go there.

 

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1 minute ago, Chimera82405 said:

Ha! Ridley needs to stop making the mvoies 'big ideas of creation' and then not delivering 'big ideas about creation',

This was Prometheus' problem in a nutshell.

 

2 minutes ago, Chimera82405 said:

f he just wants to make more haunted planet, haunted ship, or haunted base stories, fine, but don't pretend to have the 'our origins revealed' or 'who made us' engineer aliens stuff and not go there, but say they're all wiped out by one freaking robot with some bombs! What kind of an ending is that? Off camera no less, told to us by the robot!

Pretty much this, too.

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On 12/5/2017 at 11:24 AM, Chimera82405 said:

Ha! Ridley needs to stop making the mvoies 'big ideas of creation' and then not delivering 'big ideas about creation', and deliver 'big ideas about our origins' instead, if he's going to do that.

Right on. It's a terrible tease to sit through Prometheus for this to then realize Covenant did a 'Last Jedi'. 

On 12/5/2017 at 11:24 AM, Chimera82405 said:

If they were 'ancient aliens' which is silly to begin with, then woulldn't they be so advanced after millions of years, they would be a type 2 or 3, or higher people, and be like Q? David would have arrived, and they would have just melted his ship with their minds.

 

"Paradise" should have not had the engineers be there at all, because they just get offed, and it should hasve just been about crazy David finding and assimilating those aliens on the planet. They're just aliens. No creations, just aliens. If you're going to go there, go there. If not, don't go there.

My thoughts about this is that it wasn't the original Engineer planet to begin with because of what you wrote. That ship would have been ancient as well as its payload. The only way the movie makes sense is if it were another Engineer creation planet in which the aliens happen to resemble the Engineers a lot more. I know that's a stretch but it's the only thing that comes to mind. The other way to think about it is that somehow the original Engineer civilization degraded or chose to turn away from technology.

Either way, the movie did not do what Prometheus said it would. Instead it delivered a pretty standard dumb horror movie. 

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