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AfterTrek - discussion on the Discovery discussion show

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How was Discovery's first episode of after show discussion for you?

I didn't watch it live. Matt Mira, who I've listened to before via Nerdist, didn't work on TV the way he does on a podcast. TBH, I found him really irritating and not a particularly good interviewer. he focused on wisecracking and hogging the limelight rather than enticing insights from his two main guests.

Guests were James Frain (Sarek) and Aaron Harberts, joined from Toronto by the rest of the cast, whose  participation was very brief. Frain was enormously charming, even when Mira put him on the spot about Sarek's motivations. That was awkward. Harberts was very careful and choosy about what he said, in the tradition of the best showrunners. I felt for him when he described navigating and respecting canon, but also wondered (again) why they made Discovery a prequel.

These things are always a sort of puff piece for the franchises they represent, but sometimes you get nuggets of interesting news. The main event was a clip from episode 3, which features Anthony Rapp as Lt. Stamets. It would seem to reinforce the theories of Discovery being engaged in some kind of warp experiments.

There was also an interesting interview with Chris Obi, who played T'Kuvma. Hearing how his Royal Shakespeare Society experiences informed the way he played his Klingon reminded me of Chris Plummer's superb turn as General Chang in The Undiscovered Country.

 

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3 hours ago, Robin Bland said:

How was Discovery's first episode of after show discussion for you?

I didn't watch it live. Matt Mira, who I've listened to before via Nerdist, didn't work on TV the way he does on a podcast. TBH, I found him really irritating and not a particularly good interviewer. he focused on wisecracking and hogging the limelight rather than enticing insights from his two main guests.

Guests were James Frain (Sarek) and Aaron Harberts, joined from Toronto by the rest of the cast, whose  participation was very brief. Frain was enormously charming, even when Mira put him on the spot about Sarek's motivations. That was awkward. Harberts was very careful and choosy about what he said, in the tradition of the best showrunners. I felt for him when he described navigating and respecting canon, but also wondered (again) why they made Discovery a prequel.

These things are always a sort of puff piece for the franchises they represent, but sometimes you get nuggets of interesting news. The main event was a clip from episode 3, which features Anthony Rapp as Lt. Stamets. It would seem to reinforce the theories of Discovery being engaged in some kind of warp experiments.

There was also an interesting interview with Chris Obi, who played T'Kuvma. Hearing how his Royal Shakespeare Society experiences informed the way he played his Klingon reminded me of Chris Plummer's superb turn as General Chang in The Undiscovered Country.

 

Okay, I’m glad I was not the only one who hated the after show... :laugh:

Love Matt Mira on The Nerdist, and I’ve seen him do the podcast live in L.A. once, but he was an awkward fit as host; too jokey, not enough content.  Some of the laughs were cheap, too.  Can’t help thinking Chris Hardwick would’ve been a lot better at this sort of thing.  Or even Wil Wheaton.  

Mira’s a good comedian, but a host is a different gig. 

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1 hour ago, Sehlat Vie said:

Okay, I’m glad I was not the only one who hated the after show... :laugh:

Love Matt Mira on The Nerdist, and I’ve seen him do the podcast live in L.A. once, but he was an awkward fit as host; too jokey, not enough content.  Some of the laughs were cheap, too.  Can’t help thinking Chris Hardwick would’ve been a lot better at this sort of thing.  Or even Wil Wheaton.  

Mira’s a good comedian, but a host is a different gig. 

I've liked his podcasts, but he didn't work at all as a host!

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40 minutes ago, Robin Bland said:

I've liked his podcasts, but he didn't work at all as a host!

Same.

He’s very funny, and his standup is wonderful.  But again, hosting is a very tricky gig; you have to be the spotlight and be able to share it simultaneously, and Mira barely registered.   I was also surprised at the cheap ST jokes; Mira is a level-10 Trekkie, and he was tossing softballs the whole night.   I was kinda thinking WTF??   It’s like having Stephen Hawking doing remedial math...

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You guys aren't the only ones who didn't like it. I've heard from several people that they actually couldn't make it throw the show because "the host was so bad". So yeah, there seems to be a bit of a problem here.

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Maybe they need to turn down the obnoxiousness volume or something. It was a weird format, because the intro to the main cast was sooooo brief. I get that they have to film in the morning, but what then is the point of dragging them out for this promo exercise, make them sit there and not at least ask them a couple of questions? The dumb brashness of it all was off-putting. 

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36 minutes ago, Robin Bland said:

Maybe they need to turn down the obnoxiousness volume or something. It was a weird format, because the intro to the main cast was sooooo brief. I get that they have to film in the morning, but what then is the point of dragging them out for this promo exercise, make them sit there and not at least ask them a couple of questions? The dumb brashness of it all was off-putting. 

There was no real discussion either.   At least in Chris Hardwick’s Walking Dead & Better Call Saul post-shows you actually LEARN something.  This was just all mindless, ancient “Trekkie” jokes and people trying to one-up the funnies on each other.   Not worth watching again, to be honest.

3 hours ago, Mr.Picard said:

You guys aren't the only ones who didn't like it. I've heard from several people that they actually couldn't make it throw the show because "the host was so bad". So yeah, there seems to be a bit of a problem here.

Thing is, Matt Mira is hilarious in person.   I’ve seen him live onstage in L.A. and he was easily the funniest comedian (of many) on stage that night.  And his Trekspertise is damn-near encyclopedic, but he seemed to be dialing it down on (ironically) a post-Trek show (?).   He wasn’t full-on Matt Mira; he was playing to the lowest common Trek denominator.

I know he can do better. 

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[SPOILERS]

 

 

Ep 2 - Matt Mira was a whole hell of a lot less irritating this week. Felt like someone had told him to take the volume down, and suddenly he was the guy from the Nerdist podcasts, which is a big relief. The show as a whole felt more coherent and insightful, and it was great to see Mary Wiseman AKA Cadet Tilly being interviewed. Aaron Haberts also seemed more relaxed, although of course he was on guard about shedding too much light on secrets from forthcoming episodes. Lots of great insight into the "Captain's menagerie." And yes, that was a Gorn skeleton! I spotted it and it was WTF...? Surely not! But that's exacyly what it was.

Nice sneak peek from ep 3, too. 

A much, much better installment that felt like a nice, genuine coda to the episode o Discovery it represented. Looking forward to next week's now, which will see the excellent Doug Jones as a guest.

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8 minutes ago, Robin Bland said:

[SPOILERS]

 

 

Ep 2 - Matt Mira was a whole hell of a lot less irritating this week. Felt like someone had told him to take the volume down, and suddenly he was the guy from the Nerdist podcasts, which is a big relief. The show as a whole felt more coherent and insightful, and it was great to see Mary Wiseman AKA Cadet Tilly being interviewed. Aaron Haberts also seemed more relaxed, although of course he was on guard about shedding too much light on secrets from forthcoming episodes. Lots of great insight into the "Captain's menagerie." And yes, that was a Gorn skeleton! I spotted it and it was WTF...? Surely not! But that's exacyly what it was.

Nice sneak peek from ep 3, too. 

A much, much better installment that felt like a nice, genuine coda to the episode o Discovery it represented. Looking forward to next week's now, which will see the excellent Doug Jones as a guest.

I caught it almost by accident; I was running CBS AA on my iPad while cooking and it sort of just ‘came on’ after my rewatch of E1.3.   And yes, Mira was MUCH toned down this week.  He felt more himself, and less ‘on.’  

And yes, I spotted the Gorn skeleton too.   Kind of reminded me of Trelane having a salt vampire in his castle.   

And I’m definitely watching Doug Jones; I’ve been a fan of his for years. :thumbup:

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