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Moonraker: the roller coaster ride

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4 minutes ago, Nombrecomun said:

Agreed. There are some that have something more to do and when they do develop them, or allow to develop them, then you get something cool. For example, Michelle Yeoh's Colonel Wai Lin, was refreshing. Here's someone we know can hold their own. They could have done a spinoff with her character and it would have sold. She has the chops for it....no pun intended. 

Not sure - "Tomorrow Never Dies" didn't do so hot with critics.

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7 minutes ago, Nombrecomun said:

Agreed. There are some that have something more to do and when they do develop them, or allow to develop them, then you get something cool. For example, Michelle Yeoh's Colonel Wai Lin, was refreshing. Here's someone we know can hold their own. They could have done a spinoff with her character and it would have sold. She has the chops for it....no pun intended. 

I would have watched it. I almost thought they were going to spin her off, tbh. It just seemed so natural.

 

Had Connery ever swatted HER backside? Shattered wrist, at least. LOL.

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5 minutes ago, Rusty0918 said:

Not sure - "Tomorrow Never Dies" didn't do so hot with critics.

Perhaps but it's probably not much to do with her character. Her character was quite solid. Michelle Yeoh is old hand at these type of action flicks. Bond was tame compared to what she's done in HK films. 

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41 minutes ago, Nombrecomun said:

Perhaps but it's probably not much to do with her character. Her character was quite solid. Michelle Yeoh is old hand at these type of action flicks. Bond was tame compared to what she's done in HK films. 

This.

And it really doesn't matter to me what critics like or don't. It matters to me what I like.

Yeoh kills in the role.

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2 hours ago, Nombrecomun said:

Perhaps but it's probably not much to do with her character. Her character was quite solid. Michelle Yeoh is old hand at these type of action flicks. Bond was tame compared to what she's done in HK films. 

I enjoyed Yeoh in TND, and the movie itself.   It’s a solid Bond entry and I enjoyed it.   Is it a classic like “From Russia With Love” “Goldfinger” or even “Casino Royale”?  Maybe not.   But for me, TND was probably my 2nd favorite Brosnan-era Bond next to “Goldeneye.” 

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On 8/1/2017 at 3:43 PM, Rusty0918 said:

Well, the song from Duran Duran was good, and I know that Patrick MacNee was in it as an ill-fated chauffeur for Bond. It's a shame though, the rest of that movie just - SUCKED. Tanya Roberts was horrible - ugh (she was nominated for a Razzie for Worst Actress for that movie).

Grace Jones and the usually good Christopher Walken weren't a heck of a lot better either (this was also early in Walken's career before he got to be more known as he was starting in the 90's). As said, this film just didn't have the "feel" of a Bond film. 

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37 minutes ago, John32070 said:

Grace Jones and the usually good Christopher Walken weren't a heck of a lot better either (this was also early in Walken's career before he got to be more known as he was starting in the 90's). As said, this film just didn't have the "feel" of a Bond film. 

With Walken and Jones the pieces were there for some terrific villainy. It just didn't gel.

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13 hours ago, prometheus59650 said:

With Walken and Jones the pieces were there for some terrific villainy. It just didn't gel.

Grace Jones is a force of nature, and Walken is arguably one of the most interesting actors of all time.  How it didn't work is a mystery to me...

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1 hour ago, Sehlat Vie said:

Grace Jones is a force of nature, and Walken is arguably one of the most interesting actors of all time.  How it didn't work is a mystery to me...

I think it might be a case of, "If it ain't on the page, it ain't on the stage," but honestly, I don't recall it being any more hackneyed than any other Bond of the era. Then again, maybe it's just an exceptionally bad Tanya Roberts and a Bond that had visibly stayed too long pulling you out of the film.

I might have to pop it in one of these days. 

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1 hour ago, prometheus59650 said:

I think it might be a case of, "If it ain't on the page, it ain't on the stage," but honestly, I don't recall it being any more hackneyed than any other Bond of the era. Then again, maybe it's just an exceptionally bad Tanya Roberts and a Bond that had visibly stayed too long pulling you out of the film.

I might have to pop it in one of these days. 

Well - I do agree - I think Roger Moore might have been better off quitting after "For Your Eyes Only." I know some differ about "Octopussy" but I consider that one to be laughably bad in many areas, and of course "A View to a Kill." He was obviously getting too old to do 007. Tanya Roberts's character was definitely a huge cancer to the movie that helped to it in. Bad casting.

It's a pity about Christopher Walken, I think he did a rather good job of being a psychopath (taking delight in pumping his loyal workers full of lead after he flooded the fault), but the bad definitely outweighed the good.

I've always thought "A View to a Kill" and "Moonraker" should deserve the "Mystery Science Theater 3000" treatment. I could only imagine Johan/Mike/Joel and the 'bots singing the "Full House" theme song when we see the Golden Gate Bridge.

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