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INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE Bombs at the Box Office

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BOX OFFICE: INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE Flounders As FINDING DORY Remains On Top This Weekend

It looks like we can add another box office flop to the ever growing list of 2016 disappointments as Independence Day: Resurgence won't come anywhere near Finding Dory's haul this weekend, ouch !

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/box-office-independence-day-resurgence-flounders-as-finding-dory-remains-a142925

 

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BOX OFFICE: INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE Flounders As FINDING DORY Remains On Top This Weekend

It looks like we can add another box office flop to the ever growing list of 2016 disappointments as Independence Day: Resurgence won't come anywhere near Finding Dory's haul this weekend, ouch !

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/box-office-independence-day-resurgence-flounders-as-finding-dory-remains-a142925

 

It's only been out for two days and they've already declared it a bomb (?)... :huh2:

 

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BOX OFFICE: INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE Flounders As FINDING DORY Remains On Top This Weekend

It looks like we can add another box office flop to the ever growing list of 2016 disappointments as Independence Day: Resurgence won't come anywhere near Finding Dory's haul this weekend, ouch !

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/box-office-independence-day-resurgence-flounders-as-finding-dory-remains-a142925

 

It's only been out for two days and they've already declared it a bomb (?)... :huh2:

 

Welcome to the 24 hour information/cyber age where judgments are made almost instantly.

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BOX OFFICE: INDEPENDENCE DAY: RESURGENCE Flounders As FINDING DORY Remains On Top This Weekend

It looks like we can add another box office flop to the ever growing list of 2016 disappointments as Independence Day: Resurgence won't come anywhere near Finding Dory's haul this weekend, ouch !

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/sci-fi/box-office-independence-day-resurgence-flounders-as-finding-dory-remains-a142925

 

It's only been out for two days and they've already declared it a bomb (?)... :huh2:

 

A $165M film with a $40-45M open? Yup. Its domestic track is already pretty much set.

A film in this day and age really only has opening Thursday night to Sunday to make its splash. A film with legs is something of  a rarity these days.

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I say it's all for the better.  A lot of these big budget movies that are only made because of branding and name recognition aren't doing too hot this year. I think the pendulum is beginning to swing...here is hoping it swings into something interesting. 

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If that's the case, I hope it gives Emmerich some second thoughts about that Stargate re-boot that he wanted to do. Let's face it, the SG-1 series at least was better by a long-shot than the 1994 movie.

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If that's the case, I hope it gives Emmerich some second thoughts about that Stargate re-boot that he wanted to do. Let's face it, the SG-1 series at least was better by a long-shot than the 1994 movie.

It was superior in every way.

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Aww man I was planning to see this on Sunday!

I was planning on seeing it today... wound up not.

Though my curiosity to see how bad it can be is starting to gnaw at me, I have to admit. 

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Aww man I was planning to see this on Sunday!

I was planning on seeing it today... wound up not.

Though my curiosity to see how bad it can be is starting to gnaw at me, I have to admit. 

Just don't say you weren't warned is all :)

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Aww man I was planning to see this on Sunday!

I was planning on seeing it today... wound up not.

Though my curiosity to see how bad it can be is starting to gnaw at me, I have to admit. 

Just don't say you weren't warned is all :)

You will be utterly blameless for my own stupidity... :P

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I say it's all for the better.  A lot of these big budget movies that are only made because of branding and name recognition aren't doing too hot this year. I think the pendulum is beginning to swing...here is hoping it swings into something interesting. 

Agreed. Perhaps they'll finally work out that people are getting tired of sequels and remakes. That said, it's a bit too early to declare ID:R a failure quite yet. Perhaps they released it a week too early, it might have done better closer to the Fourth of July.

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I say it's all for the better.  A lot of these big budget movies that are only made because of branding and name recognition aren't doing too hot this year. I think the pendulum is beginning to swing...here is hoping it swings into something interesting. 

Agreed. Perhaps they'll finally work out that people are getting tired of sequels and remakes. That said, it's a bit too early to declare ID:R a failure quite yet. Perhaps they released it a week too early, it might have done better closer to the Fourth of July.

I think some people (at least in my area) don't even realize it was released this week; they probably assumed it would come out 4th of July weekend. 

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Roland was missing for 10 years, huh ? I wonder what he's has been doing since The Day After Tomorrow. Gee, that was in 2004. He just needed a hit again and this ID4 sequel is not going to be it. One friend of mine told me that the movie is the worst summer movie of the year, and he hated BVS.

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Saw it at a matinee yesterday; wasn't impressed.  It lacked heart like the first one, and a lot of it was outlandish and laughable.  First one you cared about the characters, who seemed real, and the story seemed potentially plausible as well.  Not so here. Spiner's character was one of the few highlights.  The bulk of the film was bunk, which really sucks because the first one was good.  Ah well.  If China likes it they'll make 3, if not, no loss at this point.

As for sequels and remakes... that trend isn't likely to go.  Despite the "doom and gloom" of them not doing as well, they're still doing well enough - especially overseas.

20 years ago, American audiences determined everything.  Now?  China does.  Look at Terminator Genisys.  It did $89 million here; and $300+ over there.  Not a lot of money in movie land, but it made double its cost, which means while not a hit it also wasn't a loss - because of the Chinese market. 

The last Die Hard film did $57 million; a bomb by all accounts.  Except it made money in China.  Which is why they're doing a 6th.

Our box office no longer matters; look at the foreign - especially Chinese - numbers if you want to know what will get made more of.

 

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Thats exactly why STAR TREK BEYOND is in danger of bombing at international box office - if it does not great numbers in the US, it will be bad for the movie, because it will open in Latin America, a few European countries and even Russia in late August, early September. It will just not have big foreign numbers because of this delay.

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Thats exactly why STAR TREK BEYOND is in danger of bombing at international box office - if it does not great numbers in the US, it will be bad for the movie, because it will open in Latin America, a few European countries and even Russia in late August, early September. It will just not have big foreign numbers because of this delay.

Gus

Keep in mind this, Gus. Anthony Yelchin's death will provide some sort of a boost for STAR TREK: BEYOND, how much I don't know, sort of like Heath Ledger's suicide was a big boost for "The Dark Knight." That being said, Yelchin's Chekov wasn't as major in the Trek reboot movies as Heath Ledger's Joker.

About Roland Emmerich - he did give us "2012" after the "Day After Tomorrow." So he hasn't been fully out of the loop.

Seriously, I hope he's getting second thoughts about that Stargate re-boot after this. I mean, again as I said before, SG-1 was vastly superior to his original movie by a long-shot. Though I doubt it.

As with the ID4 sequel, you folks do have a point - I doubt anyone thought it would be released this weekend (I sure did not). But I doubt that's going to affect the box office numbers for next weekend (yeah it could, but the odds are against it).

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Maybe people are tired of destruction porn. 

Here, in the Western world, perhaps. But all of this is new to China and they have a lot of people that now have entertainment money to spend. We, antisocial as we are becoming, prefer a solitary experience in our homes. You don't make the massive money that way. 

China is the new America. Therefore companies need to cater to it. I hope this doesn't sound to KMish. It is having an impact in the development of movies and will significantly increase. Wait until that movie comes out saying that Tiananmen Massacre was a CIA job. I give it 2 decades before we see something that bold. 

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Maybe people are tired of destruction porn. 

Here, in the Western world, perhaps. But all of this is new to China and they have a lot of people that now have entertainment money to spend. We, antisocial as we are becoming, prefer a solitary experience in our homes. You don't make the massive money that way. 

China is the new America. Therefore companies need to cater to it. I hope this doesn't sound to KMish. It is having an impact in the development of movies and will significantly increase. Wait until that movie comes out saying that Tiananmen Massacre was a CIA job. I give it 2 decades before we see something that bold. 

I did mean here. I wasn't commenting on China, but good luck to this movie in China, and to the recovery of Roland Emmerich's bank balance through the Chinese people's generous contributions to it.  

I wasn't being glib - I think if you're going to show bigass destruction these days, you'd better have a decent plot behind it, because audiences perceive that they've seen it all before. 

 

 

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Maybe people are tired of destruction porn. 

Here, in the Western world, perhaps. But all of this is new to China and they have a lot of people that now have entertainment money to spend. We, antisocial as we are becoming, prefer a solitary experience in our homes. You don't make the massive money that way. 

China is the new America. Therefore companies need to cater to it. I hope this doesn't sound to KMish. It is having an impact in the development of movies and will significantly increase. Wait until that movie comes out saying that Tiananmen Massacre was a CIA job. I give it 2 decades before we see something that bold. 

I did mean here. I wasn't commenting on China, but good luck to this movie in China, and to the recovery of Roland Emmerich's bank balance through the Chinese people's generous contributions to it.  

I wasn't being glib - I think if you're going to show bigass destruction these days, you'd better have a decent plot behind it, because audiences perceive that they've seen it all before. 

There's still a perverse part of me that wants to see this movie... even if just to see how bad it is.  :laugh:

I've tried my usual movie buddies, but they all seemed to have developed an over abundance of taste these days... damn. :P

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We're going tuesday.  I dont rely on other people to tell me how good a movie is.  I loved Batman vs Superman and I hate some movies that other's love.

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Maybe people are tired of destruction porn. 

Here, in the Western world, perhaps. But all of this is new to China and they have a lot of people that now have entertainment money to spend. We, antisocial as we are becoming, prefer a solitary experience in our homes. You don't make the massive money that way. 

China is the new America. Therefore companies need to cater to it. I hope this doesn't sound to KMish. It is having an impact in the development of movies and will significantly increase. Wait until that movie comes out saying that Tiananmen Massacre was a CIA job. I give it 2 decades before we see something that bold. 

I did mean here. I wasn't commenting on China, but good luck to this movie in China, and to the recovery of Roland Emmerich's bank balance through the Chinese people's generous contributions to it.  

I wasn't being glib - I think if you're going to show bigass destruction these days, you'd better have a decent plot behind it, because audiences perceive that they've seen it all before. 

There's still a perverse part of me that wants to see this movie... even if just to see how bad it is.  :laugh:

I've tried my usual movie buddies, but they all seemed to have developed an over abundance of taste these days... damn. :P

Sehlat, if i was down the road from you, I'd come, just for a laugh!

Emmerich does big, dumb entertainment fairly well. But I think he and the studio overestimated the penetration of the brand on this one. 

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Maybe people are tired of destruction porn. 

Here, in the Western world, perhaps. But all of this is new to China and they have a lot of people that now have entertainment money to spend. We, antisocial as we are becoming, prefer a solitary experience in our homes. You don't make the massive money that way. 

China is the new America. Therefore companies need to cater to it. I hope this doesn't sound to KMish. It is having an impact in the development of movies and will significantly increase. Wait until that movie comes out saying that Tiananmen Massacre was a CIA job. I give it 2 decades before we see something that bold. 

I did mean here. I wasn't commenting on China, but good luck to this movie in China, and to the recovery of Roland Emmerich's bank balance through the Chinese people's generous contributions to it.  

I wasn't being glib - I think if you're going to show bigass destruction these days, you'd better have a decent plot behind it, because audiences perceive that they've seen it all before. 

There's still a perverse part of me that wants to see this movie... even if just to see how bad it is.  :laugh:

I've tried my usual movie buddies, but they all seemed to have developed an over abundance of taste these days... damn. :P

Sehlat, if i was down the road from you, I'd come, just for a laugh!

Oh, I could imagine... you and I would probably get kicked out of the theatre for laughing. :giggle:

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