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The Search For Spock / Generations Coincidences

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This is done along the same line as the Lincoln / Kennedy coincidence that people have discussed (e.g. both Lincoln and Kennedy both being 7 letters long, etc.):

1. "Star Trek III: The Search for Spock" (TSFS) was released in 1984, "Star Trek: Generations" (GEN) was released in 1994.

2. Both movies feature the loss of the Enterprise.

3. A Klingon Bird of Prey is instrumental in the destruction of the Enterprise in both movies.

4. What's left of the original Enterprise in TSFS and the Enterprise-D in GEN enter the atmosphere of a planet - that explodes later on in the film! (Though the destruction of Veridian III was undone).

5. Both Kirk and Picard lose family members in TSFS and GEN respectively (heck, a member of Kirk's family dies in each movie too if you want to put it that way)

6. Kruge from TSFS and Soren (and Lursa) from GEN have names that are five letters long.

7. A new Excelsior class ship is seen at or near the beginning of each movie (the Excelsior itself in TSFS, the Enterprise-B in GEN) - both commanded by questionable people.

8. The movies that came before these two - "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" and "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country" were both directed by Nicholas Meyer. They are also considered better than these two commonly (though some will have differing opinions).

9. The movies that came after these two - "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home" and "Star Trek: First Contact" both have numbers divisible by four - both directed by actors who play first officer roles, and are both critical and box office successes (again superior to both TSFS and GEN by most), and both involve time travel and threats to Earth directly.

10. Scotty mans the navigation station on the original Enterprise in TSFS and the Enterprise-B in Generations.

 

Any others?

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Ahhh, I see what you did there... very clever!

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I love both STIII and GEN, and to be honest?  I've never really connected most of those dots.  Good job!

I might offer a few more...

 

*  In both movies, the Klingons were seeking weapons of mass destruction (Genesis torpedo, trilithium weapon).

*  Klingons abuse prisoners to obtain said weapons (we see David sporting a black eye, Saavik is shoved brutally; Geordi is clearly tortured & left exhausted).

*  In both, a hero is unwittingly being 'used' by someone else (McCoy is placed under the unwitting influence of Spock's katra, Geordi's VISOR is hacked by Soran).

*  Both were succeeded by more popular movies in the series;  TSFS is succeeded by the wildly popular TVH (which even non-Trekkies embraced), and GEN is succeeded by arguably the most popular entry in the TNG movie series, FC.

*  Both a character and an entire planet are 'resurrected' after initially 'dying' (Spock, Veridian III).

*  Both were directed by first-time feature film directors; Leonard Nimoy and TNG director, David Carson.

 

Intriguing topic. :)

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*  Both a character and an entire planet are 'resurrected' after initially 'dying' (Spock, Veridian III).

and Kirk is "dead" then resurrected!

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*  Both a character and an entire planet are 'resurrected' after initially 'dying' (Spock, Veridian III).

and Kirk is "dead" then resurrected!

Well, he was presumed dead in the beginning... but we wasn't bona fide worm food till the end. :giggle:

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Thought of a few more...

*  Both movies have the captain getting into an epic fistfight with the villain over a rocky landscape (Kirk v. Kruge, Picard v. Soran), and Kirk is involved in BOTH fights (hehe).

*  In both movies, the Klingons fail in their mission(s) to get their hands on their desired weapon(s).

*  In both movies, the Klingon ships wantonly violate Federation space; at the Federation freighter and at the Mutara sector in STIII, and at the Armagosa observatory in GEN.

*  Both movies feature inept captains who seem to lack any hint of command intuition whatsoever (Capt. John Harriman of the Enterprise B, and Capt. J.T. Esteban of the Grissom, who is such a weenie he has to call home to Starfleet just to beam down to the freaking planet!).   Styles may have been an arrogant jerk, but at least he was confident in the role of captain. 

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Good ones there, Sehlat Vie!

Maybe we should add that Esteban and Harriman both have first names that begin with "J" and their last names are eight letters each!

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Good ones there, Sehlat Vie!

Maybe we should add that Esteban and Harriman both have first names that begin with "J" and their last names are eight letters each!

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That's an even better one.  
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Captains Kirk and Picard both beam to a Klingon BOP.

 

 Picard beams to the Klingon ship first, then down to the surface.

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