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The Syndicate was a perfect metaphor for the Cold War world--faustian bargains; old, white men who think they are doing the best interest of the planet, and who try to exert their power over all of humanity while trying to ensure their own survival... Can Carter update this metaphor to speak to our times?    

Well, that part hasn't changed much. :(

Sad, but true... :S

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The Syndicate was a perfect metaphor for the Cold War world--faustian bargains; old, white men who think they are doing the best interest of the planet, and who try to exert their power over all of humanity while trying to ensure their own survival... Can Carter update this metaphor to speak to our times?    

Well, that part hasn't changed much. :(

You may be right. And on the X-Files, the updated government secret agents/ Men in Black/ Syndicate operatives might not look and act that different than they ever were. In Founders Mutation, the two suits at the bar, who were presumably undercover agents, look like they could have played extras in Mad Men episodes. Hell, what is a 21st century Man in Black supposed to look like? Maybe it doesn't need to be updated.  

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The Syndicate was a perfect metaphor for the Cold War world--faustian bargains; old, white men who think they are doing the best interest of the planet, and who try to exert their power over all of humanity while trying to ensure their own survival... Can Carter update this metaphor to speak to our times?    

Well, that part hasn't changed much. :(

You may be right. And on the X-Files, the updated government secret agents/ Men in Black/ Syndicate operatives might not look and act that different than they ever were. In Founders Mutation, the two suits at the bar, who were presumably undercover agents, look like they could have played extras in Mad Men episodes. Hell, what is a 21st century Man in Black supposed to look like? Maybe it doesn't need to be updated.  

Yes, I'd say if anything, the entire theme has become more urgent in the real world (secret government agencies spying for "terrorists" and old white men making faustian bargains for "national security"), so the situation today is less different from the 90s, but intensified ... and the suit design itself hasn't changed much. ;)

(Hope that makes sense; not sure how well I managed to express my thought.)

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Just saw Founders Mutation--I had to wait a week until my hubby got home from a work trip. First impressions:

--this was a mythology episode through and through. Evidence: my hubby who was never a fan turned to me and said "I thought these all weren't going to be serialized about aliens." I assured him next week it wouldn't be. He's hanging in there with me like a champ. 

--As a mythology episode, I liked it. The myth-arc shows work best when they start with a random, strange and isolated event, that our agents investigate and discover it leads to more doors. Pull the loose thread, and see where it goes, as Mulder says in this episode. My Struggle was the opposite of that. That episode presented us with the big picture first, and now we are filling in the details. Consider Tad O'Mally's speech about "It will start on a Friday..." It took five years of build up for that speech to be given about the original mythology (in Fight the Future). Granted, My Struggle is about updating that original version of the apocalypse story given by Mulder's informant in the movie, but maybe Carter could have reversed the order of these episodes. (By the way, there is still no reason for us to believe O'Mally and accept that alien colonization was a hoax and is not going to happen... as least so far. If Carter is ejecting colonization, then the title of this episode--Founder's Mutation--is an apt metaphor for this new season.)

--Founder's Mutation is the kind of mythology story that should have been written for Season 9, and would have saved that season's mythology from being so bad. Season 8 and 9 consistently refused to level with us about Scully's baby, his origins and nature, which felt like a big cheat. With the episode "William," Carter seemed to be glad to be done with the story line. To his credit, he is now doing it justice. Because I have been spoiled by a picture from the last episode of this season, I predict now that all of Season 10 is really about Mulder and Scully coming to terms with their lost child, and who William was, and the project that was responsible for him. The character's deserve this, and so do us long time fans. Which brings me to my last point:

--What makes this episode great for the series, and will always be lodged in my memory when I think about Mulder and Scully, are the scenes of their imagined lives they have of what raising William would have been like. I'm getting chills just reflecting on this. When we see Mulder watching 2001 with William and explaining what the obelisk symbolizes, and then shooting off model rockets... my husband looked over at me with this look like "You're going to do that with our kid someday." And the way they imagined how they would lose William... oh, man. Scully's nightmare that he would turn into an alien as he grow up is chilling to the bone. And Mulder's nightmare that he would be abducted just like Samantha is heart-rending. These two haunting and haunted characters are so much richer now for me than before this episode. I won't look at them the same way without think about these scenes.        

 

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--Founder's Mutation is the kind of mythology story that should have been written for Season 9, and would have saved that season's mythology from being so bad. Season 8 and 9 consistently refused to level with us about Scully's baby, his origins and nature, which felt like a big cheat. With the episode "William," Carter seemed to be glad to be done with the story line. To his credit, he is now doing it justice. Because I have been spoiled by a picture from the last episode of this season, I predict now that all of Season 10 is really about Mulder and Scully coming to terms with their lost child, and who William was, and the project that was responsible for him. The character's deserve this, and so do us long time fans. Which brings me to my last point:

And I really don't know why the TV series held back on this critical avenue for drama; seems kind of counterproductive.  

I'm glad the new series got put that right up onto the table; the coyness and ambiguities about 'did-they/didn't-they' in the regular series were downright silly, IMO.   There was a child, Mulder and Scully (at that point in the old show) were clearly more than just loyal partners.   So... why the ambiguity?

The would-be flashbacks with "William" were my favorite parts of the "Founder's Mutation"; the rest felt like a leftover '90s episode, to be frank. 

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--Founder's Mutation is the kind of mythology story that should have been written for Season 9, and would have saved that season's mythology from being so bad. Season 8 and 9 consistently refused to level with us about Scully's baby, his origins and nature, which felt like a big cheat. With the episode "William," Carter seemed to be glad to be done with the story line. To his credit, he is now doing it justice. Because I have been spoiled by a picture from the last episode of this season, I predict now that all of Season 10 is really about Mulder and Scully coming to terms with their lost child, and who William was, and the project that was responsible for him. The character's deserve this, and so do us long time fans. Which brings me to my last point:

And I really don't know why the TV series held back on this critical avenue for drama; seems kind of counterproductive.  

I'm glad the new series got put that right up onto the table; the coyness and ambiguities about 'did-they/didn't-they' in the regular series were downright silly, IMO.   There was a child, Mulder and Scully (at that point in the old show) were clearly more than just loyal partners.   So... why the ambiguity?

The would-be flashbacks with "William" were my favorite parts of the "Founder's Mutation"; the rest felt like a leftover '90s episode, to be frank. 

I understand your criticism of the episode as a throw back.  And I may come to share it if there is not a big payoff by the end of the six episodes. But as for now, I am detecting an energy coursing under the surface of these episodes. I feel like it's going somewhere, which is exciting, and can't be said about the X-Files since season 5. 

I always imagined X-Files returning in a more unconventional way since I couldn't see Mulder and Scully back working for the FBI. You once mentioned that you liked my Mulder as an Internet-age Art Bell idea. They still could have done investigations, and it would have addressed some of the criticisms raised in the i09 article you posted, about how Mulder would be fully enmeshed in an on-line community of UFO enthusiasts. 

But since that's not what Carter decided to do, and because his approach may pay dividends, I'm going to roll with it for now.   

 

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--Founder's Mutation is the kind of mythology story that should have been written for Season 9, and would have saved that season's mythology from being so bad. Season 8 and 9 consistently refused to level with us about Scully's baby, his origins and nature, which felt like a big cheat. With the episode "William," Carter seemed to be glad to be done with the story line. To his credit, he is now doing it justice. Because I have been spoiled by a picture from the last episode of this season, I predict now that all of Season 10 is really about Mulder and Scully coming to terms with their lost child, and who William was, and the project that was responsible for him. The character's deserve this, and so do us long time fans. Which brings me to my last point:

And I really don't know why the TV series held back on this critical avenue for drama; seems kind of counterproductive.  

I'm glad the new series got put that right up onto the table; the coyness and ambiguities about 'did-they/didn't-they' in the regular series were downright silly, IMO.   There was a child, Mulder and Scully (at that point in the old show) were clearly more than just loyal partners.   So... why the ambiguity?

The would-be flashbacks with "William" were my favorite parts of the "Founder's Mutation"; the rest felt like a leftover '90s episode, to be frank. 

I understand your criticism of the episode as a throw back.  And I may come to share it if there is not a big payoff by the end of the six episodes. But as for now, I am detecting an energy coursing under the surface of these episodes. I feel like it's going somewhere, which is exciting, and can't be said about the X-Files since season 5. 

I always imagined X-Files returning in a more unconventional way since I couldn't see Mulder and Scully back working for the FBI. You once mentioned that you liked my Mulder as an Internet-age Art Bell idea. They still could have done investigations, and it would have addressed some of the criticisms raised in the i09 article you posted, about how Mulder would be fully enmeshed in an on-line community of UFO enthusiasts. 

But since that's not what Carter decided to do, and because his approach may pay dividends, I'm going to roll with it for now.   

 

Pretty great little essay about your responses, Justin (your last two posts). Made me appreciate the episode a bit more - some great points there. It'll be interesting to see how it pans out.

More tonight! :)

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The Syndicate was a perfect metaphor for the Cold War world--faustian bargains; old, white men who think they are doing the best interest of the planet, and who try to exert their power over all of humanity while trying to ensure their own survival... Can Carter update this metaphor to speak to our times?    

Well, that part hasn't changed much. :(

You may be right. And on the X-Files, the updated government secret agents/ Men in Black/ Syndicate operatives might not look and act that different than they ever were. In Founders Mutation, the two suits at the bar, who were presumably undercover agents, look like they could have played extras in Mad Men episodes. Hell, what is a 21st century Man in Black supposed to look like? Maybe it doesn't need to be updated.  

Yes, I'd say if anything, the entire theme has become more urgent in the real world (secret government agencies spying for "terrorists" and old white men making faustian bargains for "national security"), so the situation today is less different from the 90s, but intensified ... and the suit design itself hasn't changed much. ;)

(Hope that makes sense; not sure how well I managed to express my thought.)

I hear you. Maybe an updated Man in Black isn't going to be on the bar stool at all, he in some cubicle somewhere reading a screen. But who wants to watch that? Besides, there always needs to be boots on the ground. They might as well wear snazzy suits. 

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I was just happy to see them let Anderson have fun in the role after 15 or so years. I so want to see her do a flat out comedy instead of the serious drama she always does, I think she'd be great.

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My internet/cable cut out on me last night, and in doing so, my DVR deleted the two shows on the schedule; X-Files & Supergirl, of course (@#!).

But I'm going to watch both of them via Fox and CBS online.   Yay!! :thumbup:


 

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OK, I finally saw "Mulder and Scully Meet the Were Monster." 

OMG, that was the best and funniest episode since "Jose Chung's From Outer Space" and "Bad Blood."   It's a new classic, I agree.
Guest star Rhys Darby (who reminds me a lot of Martin Freeman) was one of the best guest stars of the entire series.
And the twist to the conventional monster story was just brilliant.  

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I liked the in-joke of Guy wearing the exact seersucker suit of "Night Stalker" Carl Kolchak (the late Darren McGavin), from the short-lived 1974 series that inspired the X-Files, according to Carter.  Also appreciated the gravestone of the late director/producer Kim Manners (who passed away in 2009); nice touch. :)

And the fantasy sequence with Scully... sweet baby Jeezus, Gillian Anderson looks fantastic (!). :worthy:

VERY adult content from the episode... you've been warned! 

I don't even care that the episode didn't advance the overall story of this limited miniseries; it was absolutely brilliant as hell.   This episode did more than remind me of the old series... it reminded why I used to absolutely LOVE the old series.

Well done!! 

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OK, I finally saw "Mulder and Scully Meet the Were Monster." 

OMG, that was the best and funniest episode since "Jose Chung's From Outer Space" and "Bad Blood."   It's a new classic, I agree.
Guest star Rhys Darby (who reminds me a lot of Martin Freeman) was one of the best guest stars of the entire series.
And the twist to the conventional monster story was just brilliant.  

xfiles31.jpgtve11596-4-538.gif

I liked the in-joke of Guy wearing the exact seersucker suit of "Night Stalker" Carl Kolchak (the late Darren McGavin), from the short-lived 1974 series that inspired the X-Files, according to Carter.  Also appreciated the gravestone of the late director/producer Kim Manners (who passed away in 2009); nice touch. :)

And the fantasy sequence with Scully... sweet baby Jeezus, Gillian Anderson looks fantastic (!). :worthy:

VERY adult content from the episode... you've been warned! 

I don't even care that the episode didn't advance the overall story of this limited miniseries; it was absolutely brilliant as hell.   This episode did more than remind me of the old series... it reminded why I used to absolutely LOVE the old series.

Well done!! 

It was great, wasn't it?

Another nice insider gag: The stoner couple from the beginning of the episode is the same as in season 3 (they appeared as teenagers in "War of the Coprophages" and "Quagmire", IIRC). :)

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OK, I finally saw "Mulder and Scully Meet the Were Monster." 

OMG, that was the best and funniest episode since "Jose Chung's From Outer Space" and "Bad Blood."   It's a new classic, I agree.
Guest star Rhys Darby (who reminds me a lot of Martin Freeman) was one of the best guest stars of the entire series.
And the twist to the conventional monster story was just brilliant.  

xfiles31.jpgtve11596-4-538.gif

I liked the in-joke of Guy wearing the exact seersucker suit of "Night Stalker" Carl Kolchak (the late Darren McGavin), from the short-lived 1974 series that inspired the X-Files, according to Carter.  Also appreciated the gravestone of the late director/producer Kim Manners (who passed away in 2009); nice touch. :)

And the fantasy sequence with Scully... sweet baby Jeezus, Gillian Anderson looks fantastic (!). :worthy:

VERY adult content from the episode... you've been warned! 

I don't even care that the episode didn't advance the overall story of this limited miniseries; it was absolutely brilliant as hell.   This episode did more than remind me of the old series... it reminded why I used to absolutely LOVE the old series.

Well done!! 

It was great, wasn't it?

Another nice insider gag: The stoner couple from the beginning of the episode is the same as in season 3 (they appeared as teenagers in "War of the Coprophages" and "Quagmire", IIRC). :)

It didn't realize that; I have S3 on DVD, but I haven't watched most of them in years.   Think I need to break them out again. 

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"Bat crap crazy" Best line. 

And yes, the fantasy scene with Scully and the monster....Yowza!!!

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Is it odd that I missed the episode but saw the hot scene with Scully? 

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Okay, so we had an UFO mythology episode, a semi-mythology alien child episode casting a light on Mulder's and Scully's son, and a standalone "funny" episode.

Next will probably be a standalone creepy episode; next week's episode is supposed to be titled "Home Again". Perhaps it will be a sequel to the most creepy season 4 episode "Home". I'm curious. :)

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Not at all. :)

Who the hell was complaining about her looks????!!!!

Seriously, I about freaked out thinking this was going into a porn scene. 

 

Overall, I am enjoying these episodes. However I thought given the limited amount of eps that they were going for a tighter storyline. I thought I would be watching something more along the lines of American Horror Story. Not complaining. Just wondering if a throwback to their typical type of season lends itself to a very different tv landscape and audience. 

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Not at all. :)

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Nice to see that Darin Morgan hasn't lost his touch!

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That was very much in the spirit of the old series, but with a nice fresh take on the traditional 'standalone monster' show.  

And I think some of the credit for the episode's success also goes to the guest star Rhys Darby; he was terrific.  

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That was one of the best damn episodes!  It reminded me in of Darin Morgan's best stuff...Jose Chung as well as one of my personal favorites "War of the Copophrages" (and underrated classic in my opinion).  This was top rate stuff, Rhys Darby was hilarious, the premise was great, and the episode was just perfectly executed.  While I enjoyed the last two episodes, this was just top rate X-Files.  Everything about it worked, and even if the rest of this season is full of clunkers...to me the X-Files has redeemed itself for that 9th Season and that last movie!

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That was one of the best damn episodes!  It reminded me in of Darin Morgan's best stuff...Jose Chung as well as one of my personal favorites "War of the Copophrages" (and underrated classic in my opinion).  This was top rate stuff, Rhys Darby was hilarious, the premise was great, and the episode was just perfectly executed.  While I enjoyed the last two episodes, this was just top rate X-Files.  Everything about it worked, and even if the rest of this season is full of clunkers...to me the X-Files has redeemed itself for that 9th Season and that last movie!

"Coprophages" is one of my favorites, too... so is "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose". "Jose Chung", for some reason, didn't thrill me that much.

And yes, I feel "Were-Monster" is definitely X-Files at its best. :) In my book, the miniseries is a success already, the remaing 3 eps can hardly change that.

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That was one of the best damn episodes!  It reminded me in of Darin Morgan's best stuff...Jose Chung as well as one of my personal favorites "War of the Copophrages" (and underrated classic in my opinion).  This was top rate stuff, Rhys Darby was hilarious, the premise was great, and the episode was just perfectly executed.  While I enjoyed the last two episodes, this was just top rate X-Files.  Everything about it worked, and even if the rest of this season is full of clunkers...to me the X-Files has redeemed itself for that 9th Season and that last movie!

"Coprophages" is one of my favorites, too... so is "Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose". "Jose Chung", for some reason, didn't thrill me that much.

And yes, I feel "Were-Monster" is definitely X-Files at its best. :) In my book, the miniseries is a success already, the remaing 3 eps can hardly change that.

Between the first and third episodes, I'm optimistic for the remaining three. 

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Not at all. :)

Who the hell was complaining about her looks????!!!!

Seriously, I about freaked out thinking this was going into a porn scene. 

How can Scully never age? She was stunning! :inlove: And I say that as someone that's still a teeanger. Damn, she looks better than many of my very younger colleagues.

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