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Concept Art for Star Trek V The Final Frontier

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I want to share with you guys some pre-production concept art pics from William Shatner's STAR TREK V (scanned from the book THE ART OF STAR TREK by Judith and Garfield Reeves-Stevens)

Nilo Rodis Jamero concept art for the God Altar in Sha Ka Ree.

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Making the God Altar in a Paramount set.

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Nilo Rodis concept art for the Rockman creature, which attacks Kirk in the deleted ending of STAR TREK V.

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The Rockman creature attacks Kirk - a scene deleted from the final film.

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And now, just to have some fun :

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Here is in more detail the Rockman costume.

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And here are pics of the test footage found in the STAR TREK V Blu-Ray

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I like that concept art WAY better than the actual creature. *hides* lol (Didn't they cut it from the movie because it looked so ridiculous? I think I read something like that. Somewhere. At some point.)

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Yep. Shatner wanted the creature so much in the movie, but Harve Bennett and Ralph Winter told him "Bill, it looks ridiculous. Lets ask Bran Ferren ffor another special effect there" and so forth.

Any way, we created a CGI Rockman and used some screen tests to recreate the Rockman sequence in the fan remaster. My opinion is that looks good and its a better climax. Go figure.

Gus

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So, though the 'God Altar' set was constructed as planned, the visual effects that were to take place whitin it to pay off much of what had been set up in the script remained unrealized, due to Bran Ferren's flawed special effects.

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Some blue screen and motion control shots are poorly lit and matted by Ferren & Associates - fpor example Kirk fall from El Capitan and the Enterprise shots, really poorly done and in need of a clean and remaster.

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What are your opinion ?

Gus

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So, though the 'God Altar' set was constructed as planned, the visual effects that were to take place whitin it to pay off much of what had been set up in the script remained unrealized, due to Bran Ferren's flawed special effects.

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Some blue screen and motion control shots are poorly lit and matted by Ferren & Associates - fpor example Kirk fall from El Capitan and the Enterprise shots, really poorly done and in need of a clean and remaster.

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What are your opinion ?

Gus

I would watch a remastering of Star Trek V special effects ... but I wouldn't pay for it. I think I am not alone among even the most die-hard Trekkies in this regard. With no market for it, Paramount won't ever get it done.

I am also not sure what the purpose of the Rockman is anyways except to give Kirk some physical object to throw his fists and two-legged kicks at. I actually think the villain is much more dangerous and powerful in that spirit energy form we see. What does the Rockman really add? I guess the concept art looks somewhat cool, but I don't think it would add a whole lot to the picture. It would be just another random under-developed and under-utilized character much like Talbot, Dar, and Korrd.

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That Yosemite fail---er, fall of Kirk's was so bad it pretty much popped me out of the movie... Kirk's shirt changing from blue to black and back to blue mid-fall was just embarrassing. A first year FX mistake (couldn't they use a GREEN screen instead of blue???). And yes, I have to agree with Mr. Picard; the finished Rockman looks about as menacing as a desert tortoise. Frankly if I were Shatner? I would've canned a lot of the silly Nimbus III stuff and saved that location work money for the climax of the movie. It seems Shatner 'blew his wad' (so to speak) trying to turn the opening sequences on Nimbus III into ST's answer to "Lawrence of Arabia"... too bad there was nothing left for the 'big finale.'

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Speakingof the Lawrence of Arabia aspect of the movie (I think the opening scene was beatiful directed) here are some concept art for Sybok by Nilo Rodis, before Lawrence Luckinbill was cast as Spock half-brother.

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Beatifull dstuff.

Another example of a bad effects shot by Bran Ferren : the Enterprise is static and the shuttle poorly lit and matted

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And then, we had to remaster everything, bring STAR TREK V close to the quality of the previous movies. But thats another story......

Finally, in May 2013, the fan remaster was ready to show to the parties interested - and the new FX was much better than I antecipated.

Gus

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I for one would purchase a Star Trek V remaster. I for one, if I wasnt 3 years old at the time, I would have gone to hollywood or whereever and burned that effects studio to the ground. It set star trek V back to 1970s television standard effects. If i were in charge of remastering I'd overhaul the whole movie, relabel the turbolift digitally, and use a variety of deleted footage,cgi, dubbing to give the whole dante's inferno finale Shatner wanted.

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Its not difficult at all to restore and remaster the "hell ending" and to replace the motion control shots of the Enterprise, Bird of Prey and so forth. My friends, PhineasBg and Wil Jaspers has done it using Lightwave 3D in their home computers and the state of the remaster DVD is incredible. Granted, its not ILM, but t is llight years from what Associated & Ferren did to the movie. We were able to do a new "God shaft" who looks like water, fix the deck numbers in the turboshaft, re-introduce the Rockman using a CGI Rockman and screen tests and so forth. It was sent to Paramount and CBS Digital as a sample of what can be done and I believe it will be done with the supervision of Shatner himself, since its the 50th anniversary is in a couple of years. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Please do the same.

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Gus

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I for one would purchase a Star Trek V remaster. I for one, if I wasnt 3 years old at the time, I would have gone to hollywood or whereever and burned that effects studio to the ground..

You'd have been on the wrong coast... Bran Ferren's (former) FX studio, Associates & Ferren, was in New Jersey. :giggle:

We have enough fires here in California, thanks. :laugh:

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That's real Jersey ingenuity! *shameless home state plug* :P

New Jersey has many things to be proud of; Frank Sinatra, Bruce Springsteen, Kevin Smith, etc. Thomas Edison's Black Maria in NJ was the first Television studio.

Yes, NJ has many things to be proud of.... Bran Ferren's special effects studio isn't one of them. :P

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Bran Ferren's special effects studio isn't one of them. :P

Must've been from north Jersey. :P

Is that where Snooki comes from? :giggle:

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Is that where Snooki comes from? :giggle:

Three quarters of the "Jersey Shore" cast is from New York and New England. :P

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Is that where Snooki comes from? :giggle:

Three quarters of the "Jersey Shore" cast is from New York and New England. :P

Whew! The state of NJ breathes a collective sigh of relief.... :laugh:

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STAR TREK V LIVES !!!!

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Thanks, Bill. And a special thanks to Harve Bennett, best Star Trek producer ever.

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Gus

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Harve Bennett only reluctantly agreed to do the movie.

He had problems with Shatner over the story. He thought (as I do) that promising God in a movie (esp. a scifi movie) is a dramatic cheat. You can't (and won't) actually 'see' God, so it has to be some kind of alien imposter or what not (unless your doing a comedy like "Bruce Almighty" or "Oh, God"). ST's vision of the universe is way too secular to allow for a serious exploration of god and/or religion. Even DS9's 'prophets' are just extra-dimensional beings. Debunking gods has a long tradition in ST ("The Apple" "Who Mourns for Adonais?" etc), but centering the story about an actual search for god is futile. It'd be like a "Search for Spock" without Spock. What's the point?

From what I understand, Shatner had to do a bit of strong-arming to get Bennett back. Part of that deal was that Bennett could produce his own "Starfleet Academy" script. And when Paramount reneged on the Academy movie, Bennett bailed on STVI. Ironically, some elements of Bennett's Academy script did eventually make their way into ST09 (one of ST's biggest moneymakers to date; makes you think poor Harve was onto something, doesn't it?).

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Yeah, I read THE ACADEMY YEARS script by Bennett and Davidf Loughery and regarding STAR TREK 2009, the word "plagiarism" come to mind.

Gustavo

Even I (as an ST09 fan) have to admit... there are a few similarities.

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"Hmmmm..... plagiarism, you say."

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