Justin Snead

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  1. The Spore Drive Thread

    9 ways the Spore Drive can be made right with canon TOS Fix: --using the SD damages the Mycelial Network --useing the SD damages the navigator --Genetic merging of human and Tardigrade DNA is banned after Stammets --Starfleet shuts down the project (for any of the above reasons, or other political or philosophical reasons) VOY Fix: --Tardigrade DNA is never found again --The Mycelial Network has consciousness and stops travelers from using it --Starfleet classifies or even destroys all records --DISCO crew destroys the SD and all record. --Q I just came up with these in a few minutes. Im sure what the writers actually do will be more interesting.
  2. The Federation-Klingon War in 2257 (SPOILERS)

    I get why some don't like the mind meld. I was ok with it. The whole sequence really conveyed the desperate straits Starfleet is in. Considering that Sarek and Cornwell were desperate. From their point of view, there was a more than 50/50 chance that was not actually Saru but some kind of Klingon trick. Plus, the writers clearly did not want to spend a scene explaining all the MU stuff that the audience already knew. You might say it was the only logical solution. I suppose Sarek could have asked Saru for permission to mindmeld. And Saru did not protest in the same way Valaris did. If you thought the mindmeld was a blemish on his character, we are probably in for a shock when we find out the Emperor's plan for Kronos that Sarek convinced the Federation Council to accept.
  3. The Federation-Klingon War in 2257 (SPOILERS)

    I remember playing with vacuum tubes when I was a kid. In the 90s. I had a lab in my basement where I pretended I was a Starfleet officer or Doc Brown depending on my mood. And I love reading old sci-fi, especially from the 1800s. Anyway, something Ive been meaning to drop since I recently watched "Return of the Archons". There was hologram technology used in TOS, just not by Starfleet. And since we're talking about clothes. It makes total sense that these aliens dress just like early to mid 19th Century humans, with a wardrobe that would work with a 1960s Western movie set.
  4. The Federation-Klingon War in 2257 (SPOILERS)

    There's the rub! The POINT is allowing new creative energy to flow. If the show runners set a mandate that there must be perfect, slavish alignment to creative decisions that were made in 1964(!), that line of thinking must necessarily affect everything and not just the uniforms. If you're the show-runner and you actually believe (as Abrams apparently did), if you just give the fans the same uniforms they won't eat us alive, then you are going down a dangerous road. Too many potentially great stories will be tossed out because "Oh, Kirk would definitely mentioned THAT in that one episode!" The costume designer, Gersha Phillips, on DSC is a very innovative person and has been getting some well deserved online promotion for her good work. Her mirror universe costumes are excellent, inspired by "Mirror, Mirror" but she was not told by her boss that she can only create costumes that exactly match that episode. Good. The daggers are the same and the gold is there, but otherwise let's see something new. Same with the regular uniforms. There are so many in-universe explanations. 1) DSC will probably have TOS style uniforms by the end. 2) There is a familiar feel connecting the DSC and the film era uniforms. 3) During the TNG-DS9 years, Starfleet had at least two different styles of uniforms. 4) Maybe the TOS uniforms were the casual wear era of Starfleet? 5) The clothes are JUST NOT THAT important. In my view, the show runners have found a perfect balance of charting new creative storytelling and visual imagery, while respecting what came before. But that is just me.
  5. The Federation-Klingon War in 2257 (SPOILERS)

    Here is one of the Trekmovie writers: "On the other hand, the Starfleet shown in The Original Series seemed to be significantly smaller and less advanced than that in Discovery. A depleted Federation rebuilding after a devastating war would quite neatly deal with that." For me, I feel like we saw so little of the Federation and/or Starfleet on TOS that there is a lot of potential for the kind of stories DSC is telling. Im just about done with my rewatch of season 1 and there is a lot of emphasis on the idea that the 1701 is exploring the far edges of explored space. In your head canon. Not mine.
  6. Episode 1.15 “Will You Take My Hand?” Discussion Thread

    With serialized shows, how the story ends becomes just as important as the journey to that end. If all the story and character threads woven through the 14 episodes do not end up amounting to anything in the 15th, if some of those threads were just plot contrivances to juice up the drama or action, the whole story will be less compelling. This is my fear as we go into the end of season 1. I've compiled a list of these plot contrivances from the first half of season 1 in a blog and podcast. Some of them pay off and are clearly worth it, while others don't, mostly the Klingon stuff. A few points of concern: The Klingon war ends in episode 15. Will the payoff make it worthwhile? All loss of life, all the minutes of screen time, all the fan consternation about canon--will the resolution and its impact on our characters make us think that it was time well spent? Or will it just feel like the writers did it just to make it easier to drop in space battles every couple episodes? Tyler/Voq. Was his storyline basically resolved in episode 14, or is there more to L'Rell's plan? It would feel like a lost opportunity (for us and L'Rell and Voq) if they went through all that they did: falling in love, sacrificing Voq's body and then his mind, kidnap Lorca to get Voq on DISCO, getting L'Rell onto DISCO, and after all of that literally not one aspect of L'Rell's grand plan worked? All of that, just so the show could have what is essentially a normal human character with repressed Klingon memories as part of the regular crew? This is why I suspect--hope--that L'Rell's compliance over the last few episodes has been a fake out and she will in the end get part of what she set out to accomplish in the finale. Burnham. Since future seasons will likely go off in other directions, the matter of whether or not she bears responsibility for starting the war in the eyes of herself and Starfleet needs to be resolved now. Will they be able to pull this off? If she ends the war, will that absolve her? Hard to imagine that if you are predisposed to believe she is fully responsible (i'm not, but many in Starfleet are) that after all the death you would just be cool with her. How will she feel? I think she said in the last episode that she started the war. What will be her state of mind at the end of the war? There are many bright spots from season 1. The spore drive/tardigrade/Stamets storyline was well done and had a good payoff, though its resolution is many seasons in the future. The Lorcca/Mirror Universe stuff comes close to my concerns about L'Rell (Lorcas grand plan did not exactly pay off) but the action and the themes were so good that we forgive the plot contrivance. The Saru and Tilly arcs were also excellent. All in all it has been a good ride, but the Klingon element has been the main thrust and it is arguably the weakest element. Until Ep 14 they were kind of dumb (Koll), ineffectual (L'Rell, Voq, Koll), with a tendency to get killed (TKuvma, Kol, Voq). In Ep 14 they became both interesting and effective--but it was the second to last episode and we did not see a single Klingon ship, only heard about them. Will the final 40-50 minutes make it all worth while? It's a tall order. One prediction (caveat--most of mine have been wrong): the season will not end on a cliffhanger. I suspect they will take the DS9 approach or resolving the serialized arc so they can start a fresh one next season. Not everyting will be resolved, like if Saru is captain of the DISCO. The writers will leave themselves some time to set the table for season 2.
  7. The Federation-Klingon War in 2257 (SPOILERS)

    And when you watch TOS, is there a wall in your head canon that separates all events depicted in DSC from the TOS stories? Or is the wall permeable. Your Prime timeline has the DSC elements that fit but you weed out those that don't? Or do you just try not to think about it?
  8. The Federation-Klingon War in 2257 (SPOILERS)

    As I said somewhere, we're probably going to have to agree to disagree. Though I have enjoyed taking the time to articulate the way I view canon. Maybe it's my English Major and writer background that makes it easier for me to not be so literal with canon. Don't get me wrong, maintaining canon is essential to Trek. Without it, Trek becomes "random" like you said, a place where anything can happen so everything has less value. This is why I don't care for the alternate universe fix, and prefer to think of DSC as the Prime timeline. But I don't think telling a big story in Trek's past that was not mentioned in Trek series that predate it being written and filmed by definition breaks canon. My canon is more flexible than that. And to argue that writers of DSC should only concern themselves with Kodos and Garth Axanar and other pieces of established canon, it's just way too limiting. There SHOULD be limits. We all just draw the line in a different place. The point of the Behr quote isn't about changing actors. He's telling us to lighten up, to not be so rigid in our interpretations of the sacred texts. To be open to the artistry behind the screen (this is a man who wanted to turn all of Trek canon into the imaginings of a Harlem Renaissance sci-fi pulp magazine writer). That's where I'm comming from, and so to me DSC is not just a great show, it's a great prequel.
  9. The Federation-Klingon War in 2257 (SPOILERS)

    I'm almost to Errand of Mercy on my TOS rewatch (damn lot of episodes in season 1), so I concede your point. However, you're really arguing about Kirk's semantics. It's a good point to argue. Because Kirk's implication is all we have to go on. (This makes me think: So much of Trek canon probably rests on actors inflections of certain lines of dialogue, which fans have thought about so much we've carved the lines on stone tablets in our head canon.) I will have to watch the episode, but one possible reading I will take is that Kirk was speaking about the present political situation. Wars are dynamic. We don't talk the same way today about Afghanastan or Iraq or Syria or Russia as we did in 2008. Now if Kirk or Kor literally said "Our peoples have never fought against one another in a battle" that would be a pretty clean cut canon violation. I think we are just talking about implications, vague feelings about how things played out in the history. I am not willing to eject DSC from my TOS canon over that. I enjoy the idea of them being the same universe. That's my preference and I don't force it on others. Does that mean that Errand of Mercy might have a few wrinkles? Sure, but I can live with that. Especially since other aspects of Trek history, particularly Trek VI, take on so much more depth of meaning. Something I have been wondering about your parallel universe head canon: in your version of the Trekverse, do TOS stories happen in the near-future DSC universe?
  10. The Federation-Klingon War in 2257 (SPOILERS)

    One way to think about this. If CBS set their new Trek show 10-15 years post DS9/VOY, in what ways would it have to be different in order to reflect the Dominion War, which was a more significant war than we are seeing on DSC now? Would the aftereffects of the war be some much that you just could not imagine a series not addressing it? I don't think so. I think you could have a TNG style show set post DS9 and not have to address the war at all. Not saying you would not, since the writers would be fully able to pull stories from the DS9 era. But if not, the fans would not be placed in a position to say "This universe makes no sense anymore!" A lot of things clearly happened in Federation history that was never mentioned in TOS. And especially since the 1701 spent most of its mission exploring on the far edges of Federation space, DSC writers have a lot of leeway to fill in gaps with their own stories. So long as they don't do things that simply could not be explained, like blowing up Earth or Vulcan, or killing Pike, things like that are red lines for me. But they don't need to get anywhere near crossing them to tell good stories that remain true to canon.
  11. Episode 1.14 “The War Without, The War Within” Discussion Thread

    I will say, even though we only saw a piece of it, the starbase has a very TOS look to it. More akin to station K-7 than the big berthas of the movie era.
  12. Episode 1.14 “The War Without, The War Within” Discussion Thread

    I assumed the fact that it was numbered Starbase 1 meant to emphasize its importance, like it is the first starbase built or is the one closest to earth. We are clearly meant to get the impression it is close to Earth, and that it is where much of Starfleet Command is currently located--all to ramp up the conflict and make things seem so dire that justifies the characters taking extreme measures be it the jump to Cronos or the use of the Emperor. There are enough clues that the writers did not want the Klingons to go all the way to Earth in this storyline. They probably knew that would probably make the story a bit too dark and extreme, and would set of canon alarms among some fans. So they made it an important base and implied that Earth might be the next one to fall. Maybe the 100AUs was a mistake, or maybe not. Maybe the writer wanted it to be that close, and the production team inserted a planet that was not in the script. Has Starbase 1 ever been mentioned before?
  13. Episode 1.14 “The War Without, The War Within” Discussion Thread

    These writers clearly don't act like they are afraid of being backed into corners. They keep getting out of their corners only to find deeper ones. This has made this show so much fun to watch. But the game is up in one more episode--and I'm confident they will pull it off. After this episode, I no longer think there will be a time travel reset. They seem to be invested in finishing the Klingon war with a good old fashion fire fight, no temporal cheating. I'm one fan who doesn't think the war as depicted needs to be erased from the timeline because I don't think it contradicts canon. And the plan they've developed sounds a lot more interesting than going back in time and taking out Tkuvmas' one ship. The one thing I can't figure out is what happens with the characters in season 2. Burnham and Tyler would seem to have no right to be on the ship after the war is over. Will we get a more traditional reset button moment with Starfleet orders saying their ranks can return to normal? That's just as bad of a reset as time travel, but I'd take it if it keeps Burnham and Tyler on the DISCO.
  14. The Federation-Klingon War in 2257 (SPOILERS)

    Having just seen the last episode, I will double down. Nothing in DSC's Klingon war contradicts either the letter or the spirit of TOS canon. In fact it enhances the threat of the Klingons on TOS, making episodes like Errand of Mercy more powerful, and making Star Trek VI a different film, maybe a better one. Having Klingons who killed millions of Humans and nearly conquered Earth makes them a bit more interesting than a race that only fights skirmishes in boarder systems and poisons grain shipments. There are also implications to enhance and deepen the themes explored in DS9 Klingon arcs, when the Klingons again became the threat to Earth we are seeing on DSC. I don't care that this war is not mentioned with specificity in previous Treks (though if you open yourself to the possibility, you will find allusions to it in the others shows by sheer coincidence and the power of the imagination). It is an absurd standard that Trek's writers must limit their stories to having such small in-universe impact that fans can be comfortable with never having heard of it before. The desire of some fans for this standard to be upheld is a strong emotional reaction that is fed by their fear. We all fear that a pack of hot shot Hollywood producers will buy our beloved toy from CBS/Paramount and smash it, ruin it beyond recognition. We also fear that culture is moving on from us, chasing other (younger) audiences. This is not an irrational fear. But DSC and its producers have proven they are not deserving of that fear. They have honored so many important and delicate aspects of Trek. They are enriching and strengthening canon while also building on it. We are so lucky to have them. My hope is that after DSC season 1 is over and we've all had some weeks or months to reflect, the "not my star trek" crowd will come to trust the DSC team and put their fears to bed.
  15. The Federation-Klingon War in 2257 (SPOILERS)

    The "understanding and respect" you call for is a matter of degree which is going to be specific to each fan. Some say respect calls for keeping the uniforms and the set designs. Some care less about the look, but don't want the writers to stray too far from what has been mentioned on screen. Some, like me, see not one thing on DSC that shows lack of respect of understanding for TOS, and in fact see writers who have a great deal of both and are using it to great dramatic effect. Where some see no point in setting the show as a prequel, others of us love all the TOS tie-ins, from Mudd to the deepening of Sarek's character, to the exploration of the nature of Starfleet at the dawn of its golden age. Some of us really want this prequel to fulfill its full potential as a prequel and think that a post-NEMESIS sequel would have had a strong chance of being directionless, frivolous, been-there-done-that, TNG again but with sets that look just like the Discovery's and sleeker non-retro phasers (I urge fans who want that sequel to consider why every single Trek property and proposed property going back almost 20 years has chosen against it in favor of playing in the sandbox of earlier time periods. There are reasons--for the curiosity's sake try for one moment to consider they might be good reasons.) I agree on principle, as many of us do: Don't do anything that blatantly kills your imagination's ability to hold elements together in your head. But every fan will have a different standard, so it is impossible to expect the show runners to be successful even if they wanted to try to please the largest common denominator of fan opinion. They need to try to tell the best stories they can while respecting and co-opting what has come before. For me, DSC hits the sweet spot. For others, there are too many grating inconsistencies. Some don't watch the show. Some must hate-watch the show but fortunately these people don't post on Trek Core. Others are only mildly annoyed and are still able to enjoy watching. I say DSC links up very smoothly with TOS. Other's say no way. Neither of these statements are facts. They are opinions and equally valid. Where we disagree, we are all going to have to agree to disagree. Especially since DSC will probably have 4 or 6 more seasons. If 13 episodes have kicked up this much canon controversy, I just don't have it in me to keep up this discussion that long. Trek fans are so literal-minded, and as the franchise ages I predict we're going to have to be less literal. Trek canon is not a math equation. It is an expression of many creative minds crafting art. Here is how I watch: any given episode, you are pulled into the bubble of its story. That story is enhanced by the background knowledge you bring to it. Many DSC episodes have layers of meaning for me because I believe in its connection to previous Trek. Watching TOS episodes like Journey to Babble or Errand of Mercy or Arena or I Mudd are similarly enhanced--I don't think about how the sets are different or how the character portrayals aren't exact, because I am in the bubble believing in the reality of what I see on screen while also accessing memories from other shows about those characters or situations. This approach works for many of us. Ira Behr summed up what I am trying to say in a quote about why they kept recasting Ziyal: "From then on, I always wanted to have the opportunity to just play with the audience's minds. Because it really doesn't matter on a certain level. And so, for various reasons, we changed the part once, and then we had to change the part again." Smiling, Behr continued, "[In an ideal world,] I would have changed the role of Ziyal every single time – just to keep reminding the audience that this is all a construct." From a literal perspective, it's absurd to accept that all the different Ziyals were the same character; or that the Continues characters or Kelvin characters are the same as their TOS counterparts; or that all the Sareks are the same; or that the DISCO and the 1701 are in the same fleet; or that the Klingon versions are the same species, etc. But they can all be the same, because when you are in the bubble all that matters is the story you chose to let into your imagination.