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  1. And this guy's not there? No thank you. But seriously: No.
  2. Mirror Phlox does state that, aside from Shakespeare, who is equally grim in both universes, many other authors' works are usually way more "weak and compassionate" in the Prime Universe, which tends to confirm that both have always been parallel, or at least diverged quite a while ago...
  3. I'm sure it was exciting back then, but man, does it pinpoint the awkward acting (except for Levar, and to a lesser degree, Stewart) of the pilot. Not to mention how TNG has aged... Troi: "I'm detecting...*frowns...extreme awkwardness". But yes, I'm excited for any kind of promo for Discovery!
  4. Thanks!
  5. I keep getting 404 errors from links posted by TrekCoreNews. Am I the only one? Two exemples from recent threads below:
  6. Just wanted to put it out there: Doing a front-flip in Zero-G and then waving the Enterprise goodbye is the coolest thing someone could do in the 2270's, aside from saving Earth, maybe.

    1. Sehlat Vie

      Sehlat Vie

      I'm still trying to figure out how he kept from floating away after he kicked off from the spacedock itself (?).  Maybe action-reaction principle works differently in the 23rd century...:giggle:

  7. The Pakleds, clearly (but slowly).
  8. Ten minutes in, Star Trek V could still have been the best Trek movie ever. (Shut up, Gustavo! :p)

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    2. Tupperfan


      Generations is a guilty pleasure. The music is of course awesome, but it was also the first Trek movie I experienced in a theatre. By then, I wasn't too familiar with the Next Gen crew, but it was still a fascinating jump 75 years in the future from the TOS-movies period I knew best.

      Of course, it makes little sense, starts the bad Next Gen movie trend of writing most characters slightly off and a bridge kills (spoiler alert) Kirk (I'm not at all opposed to killing off Kirk, but it wasn't...elegant, if deaths ever are).

      So yeah, I like it, despite knowing better.

    3. Sherlock Holmes

      Sherlock Holmes

      Generations was my first Theatre experience too. Saw it 3 times. But I was very familiar with TNG. I was shocked to see (Spoilers) the Enterprise D destroyed. I was 8 at the time.

    4. GustavoLeao


      I think GENERATIONS has wonderful performances from everyone kudos to director David Carson. Shatner deliver one of his best KIrk performances and Stewart and Malcolm McDowell are great in it too.

      STAR TREK V is the same thing - great acting all around. Watch the "I need my pain !" scene and the "Not in front of the Klingons" scene, great acting from Shatner, Nimoy and De Kelley. Even the campfire scene works. And Lawrence Luckinbill was just wonderful too as Sybok. He gave the movie some depth and gravitas. STAR TREK V,, as I said various times here before, is very an underrated adventure.


  9. I'm quite excited for this new iteration and to see an updated Trek for our time. I've been re-watching every series (but not every episode) this last year and a half, for the benefit of my girlfriend and, while considering that hindsight is 20-20 and we're in a different time now, both socially and from a TV-production point of view, I've realized a few things: -There are way too many episodes, both per season and overall, resulting in a lot of repetitive stories. And often, a great scene, dialogue or character is drowned through layers of mediocrity. In the end, it results in way more bad or mediocre episodes than good ones, and the standouts are rare. -Granted, each series is a product of its time and has aged to varying degrees of quality, but Enterprise stands out, as the most recent show, as strangely regressive in terms of sexism, relative lack of diversity and complete failure in imagination. It had a great premise, but was executed flaw...fully. There are actually many cringe-worthy moments, and it starts with the pilot. I also usually found some of the effects less impressive than they were on Voy. As for continuity, and the temporal cold war, these things are mostly just frustrating and confusing, especially to more casual audiences, not privy to encyclopedic knowledge of Trek like I, and most of you guys can be. Oh and hello races we've never heard of before and/or again! -Same goes with Voyager. The most promising setting and group of characters by far, and yet, we ended with diet, boring, uneven TNG. I'll say this in defense of most of the cast and crews of Voy and Ent: The producers had become huge morons by then, as often related on behind-the-scene material. -TNG had good and baaaaaad stuff! Thankfully, it had solid acting and was relatively original at the time. -T'Pol and Seven's outfits are a teenage fanboy stupid wet dream. It shouldn't had happened. At all. Seven, when shown in other outfits, either when in uniform or in her fantasized holodeck life, always looked better, more relatable, and easier to take seriously. -DS9 doesn't look as dated as many others and is more serialized, but there's still a lit of filler and unoriginal episodes, especially before it became heavily-serialized. -Time travel, man. We need to stop going there. -Same goes with holodecks. Both time-travel and holodecks had very good outings, but both concept are very prone to deus ex machina tropes, and they've been done to death. -Speaking of making something boring, unimaginative and nonthreatening, the Borg got that treatment in Voy. So maybe I'm not as much a fan as I thought I was: I hadn't watched this much Trek in years, but I was somewhat curious to see how it would stand to be revisited. I've introduced my girlfriend to many sci-fi stories and shows and she grew to love the genre, so it just seemed natural. But if I, and she, loved most characters and series settings, there was A LOT of boring stories and episodes. Really quickly, it was decided we'd selectively watch most shows (DS9 was almost viewed in its entirety). When we arrived to Enterprise, the first two seasons basically went by in a flash. In the end, Trek has great potential, but has often been lacking when it comes to execution (And the same can be said, to a lesser degree, of the movie portion). So if there's a chance for Trek to survive the current media age, it needs to find a modern audience with updated story-telling methods, a diverse (and not only at the human level), progressive and even barrier-breaking cast, setting and stories, while remaining the optimistic view of a future we'd hope for humanity. The current state of our world is ripe with good allegories and themes that could be explored, and a shortened season would make sure we'd stay away from formulaic filler. So yes, I'm excited to see what Discovery has in store, because much of the old Trek doesn't really do it for me anymore: The future shouldn't look so...old and dated!
  10. I saw it, and while it was enjoyable at the time? It faded from memory about 15 minutes after I left the theatre. Still think "Winter Soldier" was better. Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat ? But...but...but CIVIL WAR was Marvel at its best (like DOCTOR STRANGE0 and the best movie of 2016. Gus I'm sorry. However entertaining Civil War was, a superhero movie just can't be the best movie of the year. Also, despite some good moments, these superhero movies are now extremely repetitive. The formula has been used to death and it never feels like there is any jeopardy; with all the superheroes being unbreakable (safe exception), the sheer amount of ridiculous and wanton destruction is just completely unbelievable and, frankly, boring. Even the Whedon-esque humour of Marvel movies doesn't really do it for me anymore. I'll give a chance to Guardians 2, and I'll grant that the new Spidey in Civil War was interesting, but even the new trailer is already making me less interested.
  11. Nope, not K7 or Fesarius, the one next to it, just above the Klingon D-7 and to the left of the amoeba... It looks like maybe a space station of some sort (and not K-7, which is below it); possibly from one of the remastered episodes (?). Beats me... Definitely from the remastered, in my opinion, as I believe I have a pretty good knowledge of what was seen in TOS. But it's clearly not the Vanguard-inspired remastered Starbase 6 either, so what is it?
  12. Nope, not K7 or Fesarius, the one next to it, just above the Klingon D-7 and to the left of the amoeba...
  13. I'm sure it's from the remastered episodes, but anybody can tell me the name of what I assume is a space station in the top left? I know the Federation ship below the Romulan BOP has to be the remastered Antares from Charlie X, but I can't figure out what that big thing is...
  14. The current Trek novel universe is consistent thanks to great editors like Marco Palmieri who were basically show-runners and set-up the basics, with great original characters and an ongoing story that took interesting risks and didn't hesitate to profoundly reshape the world we got used to. Of all, the DS9 relauch remains my favourite, and the characters it (re)introduced are great, fascinating and worth delving into. That said, it can feel a little overwhelming at times as you have the impression you might need to read a lot of books to make sense of some stuff in one (or, alternatively, refer to Memory Beta). And as Sim says, they are generally good, but there's a few shitty ones in there. For example, I just finished Disavowed, and if most threads were interesting and useful, there was one with two spies which was totally useless. I assume they'll be reintroduced in a later novel, but it still felt like page-filling. I'm now in the middle of Force and Motion, which is the latest DS9 relaunch and if it's not bad, I decided to stop for now and focus on a a treeplanting "memoir" whose writer seems to have experienced the same things and visited the same places I did in her career. So, basically, I've decided to take the self-congratulatory road and read about what I've experienced instead...:D
  15. I'm a big fan of Director Denis Villeneuve's movies since his more humble, yet just as awesome, Quebec movies (Incendies is a must for any cinema fan). I'm also a huge fan of the short story (and the anthology it was part of), Story of Your Life, by Ted Chiang. Just plain great stuff. So yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Hopefully the smart, adult, sci-fi movie it should be, and that we deserve. Then Villeneuve tackles the Blade Runner sequel. He's an avowed huge fan, but it will be quite the challenge and I'm a little more worried about that one.
  16. Gotta love Nana!
  17. What Prom said. Plus, you really need to stretch it to see ships in there.
  18. ***Spoilers for anybody who haven't seen Beyond and yet has managed to consult this site without knowing about the plot (congrats, by the way!)*** Apology if this has been discussed elsewhere (a quick google search prior to posting reveals it has been discussed at least on Reddit), but I haven't found anything here (nor have I looked too deeply). So, here's some speculation: Given that Krall, or the Maniac formerly known Balthazar M. Edison is a pre-Kelvin-timeline-divergence dude, it seems obvious that him and his stranded crew do exist somewhere in the Prime Timeline but haven't been found (yet). I guess it's unlikely we'll ever hear about him (or them) again, but the fact that he's lurking somewhere, beyond, could be quite interesting. Maybe the Prime Timeline found him earlier (hello Discovery!), but my guess is he's just still waiting on that planet, getting older and/or less human. Thoughts?
  19. Hi.

    No!!!! Get out, it's a trap! Get out before th... EDIT: Welcome, it's great here. *Stepford smile. Love the Captain Harlock (That I knew as Albator when I watched that show in French as a kid) sig pic by the way!
  20. I don't know why they never accepted my old pitch, Star Trek: Janitor. It is set on Earth Spacedock, level 1047(hommage!), it follows a janitor, previously posted at Starfleet Academy (he had a brief cameo in Trek II) cleaning rooms, offices and hallways. Sometimes, he has an issue with his weird cleaning backpack and the Starfleet Corps of Engineer takes its sweet time to address his work order. Sometimes people are dickish to him because it makes them feel good to belittle and blame someone for a dirt spot under a sonic lamp (I know, genius right?). One day, he finds a dead junior officer in a closet (Oooh, dark and gritty!). The same day, the Excelsior is sabotaged. Coincidence? He thinks not, so he tells everybody, but nobody listens, so he keeps on cleaning stuff. What's not to love?
  21. "Highly repetitive" ... you mean like every one of Jerry Goldsmith's scores? I think the term you mean is, "melody." Like it or not, Giacchino's theme is the theme of Star Trek at the moment. As a life-long fan of the franchise and the member of an orchestra for 8 years? I'm perfectly fine with it. I'd rather have this than the melody-less sonic wallpaper that Dennis McCarthy's churned out for Generations and endless TNG episodes. I think Tupperfan's just talking about the fact that the central motif is a little more subtly applied in Beyond, and I'd agree. It's Giacchino's best score yet for the franchise. As far as my ears can tell, he just gets better with each movie. As for McCarthy, he was only responding to requests for the producers (i.e. Berman). If he hadn't changed his style, he'd have been fired, just like Ron Jones was. Music for Trek, during that period, was subject to all kinds of external pressures. I'm no fan of the sonic wallpaper either, but I think McCarthy did a clever and amazingly diplomatic job of slowly turning things around again with both his scores for Generations and Deep Space Nine. It's McCarthy we have to thank for leading the way in allowing for many other composers with different styles to come on board for DS9 and Voyager. I was indeed talking about motif. The previous two movies made it sound like that main theme was the only thing you'd hear (and it wasn't the case). It was not criticizing the "melody" (thanks for the quotes, by the way :p) itself, which I enjoyed, but the fact that it reoccurred way too regularly in these movies, popping out grandiosely every time something heroic happened.. As for the sonic wallpaper of TNG's lore, much has been written and I agree with Robin Bland: it came from Berman. McCarthy's score for Generations, in my opinion, is really good and works well. The same can be said about DS9's intro. And regarding Jerry Goldsmith: If I prefer James Horner and Cliff Eidelman's (I'm ambivalent about Leonard Rosenman's score for Trek IV. Sometimes I like it, sometimes not, but it did fit that movie's atmosphere) Trek movie scores, and that we can't deny there was a decent amount of repetitiveness in his work, it wouldn't be fair to ignore that some of it comes from Trek producers again being a little cheap (and weird) and just re-using the same stuff all over again. As for the later Next Generation movies: Well yeah, after First Contact, we got it. But then, the whole movies were blah.
  22. Your Gorn-inspired avatar image gives me an earworm of the TOS "fight" music (from Amok Time) every time again I see it. Well, that makes sense; the location where the pic was taken is Vasquez Rocks in California (northeast of L.A.). In addition to being the asteroid surface in Arena, the 'winking out' planet in Alternative Factor and countless other episodes, Vasquez Rocks also doubled as Vulcan in both ST09 and The Voyage Home... Let's just say I visited a lot of planets on one gas tank that day... Veridian III was a little farther, though.
  23. Speaking of orchestral score, I'm glad Michael Giacchino's highly repetitive theme and motif has been downplayed a little in Beyond; The same bombastic theme(in itself pretty good) was heard as a reprise way too many times in the first two Abrams movies.
  24. Pft, typical empty Reman threat! Know your place, scum!