I think I might be in a small minority group who actually prefer STID to STB. I can't say that definitively yet; I'd need to see them both again (except I have no burning desire to see either again anytime soon). From what I remember, I found STB to be boring with too much stuff going on that I just couldn't bring myself to care about. There was very little in the way of story, it just drifted from one action scene to another. Don't get me wrong, STID certainly had flaws - very obvious and stupid ones, but the whole thing felt more like a cohesive story and the characters worked better for me (though STB did get a better Bones/Spock dynamic). May change my mind when I see them again though.
I agree with those above who have concerns about it being yet another prequel. My heart sank when I first heard that too. Been there, done that. I really don't have any desire to see more TOS-era stuff. And you would have thought they would learn their lesson from Enterprise, but obviously not. Setting it in the far future would have made by far the most sense. If not however, there are many other points throught the Trek history that would have been more interesting (during the classic films for example, or just before TNG). The "it's the only window we could find" line doesn't wash with me at all. And, to be bluntly honest, if it's going to be another free for all, anything goes, Trek in name only... Then I would actually prefer they didn't bother with it at all. I wish Enterprise never happened. I'd rather spend infinity re-enjoying what we already have rather than have some new stuff s#!t all over it. I'm really trying to keep an open mind, but it's hard. I still haven't accepted Enterprise, and this looks like it might repeat those mistakes all over again... Time will tell.
Late to the party perhaps, but my vote goes to The Enterprise Incident. An unusual choice perhaps, but I've always loved how we got to see inside an alien ship - and I know it wasn't their first appearance, but the Romulans were a great adversary; not a one-dimentional race of evil mad men, nor a one-trick pony of tired cliches... This was culture quite like our own in many ways (except unlike the contemporary Federation, Romulans actually allowed women to command their ships!) I probably like it because it was one of the first episodes I ever saw and that nostalgia feeling is quite powerful. But even on its own terms, it's got drama, tension and Spock (by far the most interesting TOS character) gets the limelight for much of the episode... And it isn't just another "Kirk kisses a girl and gets his shirt torn" episode. I also like some of the moral ambiguity... Arguably, Kirk is the bad guy here and the Romulans are just reacting as anyone would to a hostile invader and a spy. It's also incidentally, one of only nine TOS episodes that include all 7 regulars and Nurse Chapel. Amok Time and The City on the Edge of Forever also deserve mentioning, both very good too.
Meh. The film did nothing for me I’m afraid. I found it bland and on the whole rather boring. It’s not that it did anything bad as such, it just failed to do anything good.
Like Into Darkness, a lot of effort obviously went into the design, makeup, costumes, CGI and whatnot, but the actual story seems to have been a last minute addition, inserted only as a necessary evil to connect the various action scenes (after about the fourth, all I could think was “here we go again”).
Why don’t film makers put effort into the story-telling anymore? - I’m afraid the whole genre is becoming something to which I can no longer relate.
I honestly struggle to think of anything positive to say about it. The best bits were undoubtedly the Spock/McCoy scenes - I felt this relationship had been missing from the previous films so it was nice to see it finally get some attention. The best scene of the film had to be when Spock told McCoy that the Ambassador was dead. That’s probably the only bit that actually made me sit up and give the screen my undivided attention.
Otherwise it just plodded along… It kinda slipped into something, then slipped into something else… Like the previous film, it was a bit all-over-the-place with too many competing elements.
I thought destroying the Enterprise so early in the film was definitely a mistake. It was vaguely like killing off Kirk in the first act - where do you go from there? I didn’t even think it was done particularly well; crashing the Enterprise-D in Generations remains much more enjoyable for me.
For about the first half of the film, I could never quite shake the feeling that this was only the introduction and that the real story would start soon… Except it never did. After the first hour, I was bored. Yet another variation of the mad-man-with-a-WMD scenario that by now has been done to death.
I couldn’t care less about any of the aliens; by the time we found out who they were and what they were doing, I had lost interest anyway. Character moments were few and far between. Some of the lines were delivered painfully slowly, the main alien guy’s voice got very annoying, and the universal translator and subtitles were distracting. Chekov also had major issues with pacing due to his accent.
And seriously, how many uniforms does Kirk need to have?! - And where does he find time to change between them all so quickly? There’s a few other plot holes and convenient coincidences that seem part and parcel of the Abramsverse.
There’s a quite a few references to the Enterprise series which, I suppose if you like the series you’ll appreciate. Didn’t really do anything for me though.
As for the fuss about Sulu being gay? - Honestly?! - A very brief arm around the waste of another guy who could just as easily have been a good friend or family member… If anyone thinks this comes even remotely close to Star Trek finally accepting homosexuality, they are seriously mistaken.
Maybe it’s just my mood or other stuff going on in my life, but I’m tempted to rate this the worst out of all three reboot films. Nothing about it makes me want to see it again. I actually hope we have a break from the films for a while and let Trek shine on the small screen for which it it is much more suited.
DST returns to London this October.
Tickets are now on sale and guests have been announced to include William Shatner, Jerry Ryan, most of the TNG cast (except Sir Patrick) and others. See their website).
I've never really been to one of these things before, but my circumstances are such that I'm actually tempted this year. But after reading so many negative reviews from previous times, I'm not sure.
My budget is very tight so I'm currently thinking of just the basic entry ticket for either Saturday or Sunday, and maybe one photo or something... But I might not be able to resist spending more on the day!
My expectations are low - a lot of the hustle and bustle really doesn't appeal to me, and I'm not going to pay through the nose to stand in a cue for hours to get some ageing actor's autograph, but it's a day out, and it would be nice to say I've been to one of these things. And considering I'll be just an hour and a half away on the train, would I regret it if I didn't go when I had the chance...?
Yeah, there was one a few months back that they got totally wrong too, I can't remember what it was now.
And their polls are so silly; they ask a ridiculous question and give only a handful of possible answers which are all valid for different reasons... And people seem to take it so seriously, like they're actually asking the fans for their input into the franchise or something!
Ah, you and I know she was in almost all season 2 episodes (off the top of my head, I think Q Who is the only exception but there might be another), but a casting director of another show (back then) might not have done. And especially if TNG had failed, a closer association to it probably wouldn't have looked great. As it turned out, it was a huge success and so she (or more likely, her agent) didn't have anything to worry about, but back then... who knows.
An actors life is a funny one.
I don't profess to be an expert on such things by any means, but it could well be that she thought saying she made a "special appearance" on selected TNG episodes looked better on a resumé than saying she "also starred" in an entire season. There may have been fears of getting typecast and such like, and if it was true that she only intended to be there temporarily, then it might look like she was fired if she was listed as a star for just one year (as mentioned above). Remember the show back then was rather unstable and still finding its feet; it could still have turned out to be a failure. It's much harder for a star to disassociate herself from a show than it is for an occasional guest star.
I don't think she was fired.
She has said that she never intended to do TNG more than the one year anyway. That's (partly) why she declined to have her name in the opening credits.
But of course that could be a handy excuse to use in retrospect so it doesn't look bad on a resumé.
I guess we'll never truly know the answers to all this.
As I student looking at that, I would have thought "cool, easy credits - just sit around watching TV!"
As a teacher, I'd be curious as to what you actually think this (and these episodes in particular) is going to teach them?